To : David Johnston
Subj : Nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
-> DJ> Cancer isn't a mutation. It's a replication error.
-> Isn't that sort of like saying "it's not a car, it's a Buick" ?
DJ> A "mutation" is a genetic change which is passed down to one's
DJ> offspring. While in a sense cancer is a mutation on the cellular
DJ> level, it is not a mutation of the human organism as a whole.
You don't get it, do you?
Cancer *IS* being passed from generation to generation!
(well, not in the strictest sense, but researchers are
uncovering genes which are common to sufferers of
particular types of cancer exclusively)
Your pal: PhlAsh
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Msg : 47 of 143
From : Christian Raven 1:393/7 .îí 22 .íâ 96 01:35
To : Kay Shapero
Subj : Re: Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
KS> So maybe they've stopped using the silly definitions to define real live
KS> people, as opposed to theoreticaly abstracts? Heck, I can give orders
KS> and I'm female (!) and heterosexual (!!) and not even trying to be a man
KS> (!!!). Wouldn't want to, really - not that men are bad necessarily (I'm
KS> married to one), but I'm perfectly happy with the sex I've got.
perhaps they have... and perhaps woman as a general species are becoming more
and more independant and assertive as they evolve. my entire argument is based
on the fact that throughout history, probably almost to the beginning of man (no
matter what your religion), woman have been child-bearers. now, i'm not trying
to be sexist (although reading my last message i can understand how you might
feel that way), but that's the way it was. in fact, it wasn't until quite
recently that women began to take on some of the roles of their male
counterparts. so the way i see it, you can't destroy that much evolved instinct
in just a few decades... most likely, it will take quite a long time.
KS> Of course if you think it takes agression (as opposed to assertion) to
KS> give orders, you're going to have problems anyway. Far better to be
KS> backed up by the respect of those taking the orders than by raw force.
KS> That way they're more likely to be followed when something happens to the
KS> force. Also, you're more likely to get accurate answers to your questions
KS> instead of whatever the other party thinks you want to hear.
KS> My problem with Voyager is not the captain (though I do find myself
KS> wishing they'd found an actress that not only looked a bit like Katherine
KS> Hepburn, but could ACT like her in movies like The African Queen). It's
KS> the scriptwriting, the Trecknobabble of Impressive Proportions, and the
KS> general "ah, who cares, it's Science Fiction" attitude that leads to
KS> things like confusing the event horizon of a black hole with some sort of
KS> energy shell you can poke cracks in.
i agree, assertiveness is far superior to raw agression in the long term.
however, in order to gain the respect of your crew so that they will trust your
assertations, you must show some degree of fearlessness, true compassion, and
strong will.
i agree with your last paragraph, and feel that with all the newness of an
unexplored quadrant, couldnt they come up with something better? i did like the
most recent episode featuring the silver-alloy robots, however.
..c.raven..
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Msg : 48 of 143
From : Christian Raven 1:393/7 .îí 22 .íâ 96 01:43
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : Re: Star Trek Sexism
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On Sun 21-Jan-1996 6:28p, Todd Sullivan wrote:
TS> While substituting for Q, Christian Raven took extreme delight in saying
TS> to David Johnston, "You'll do anything I say?" David quailed when the
TS> words "destroy all feminsts!" were uttered.
TS> DJ>> That's really quite an idiotic statement. Giving orders is not a
TS> DJ>> defining characteristic of masculinity.
TS> CR> really? then what is? femininty is just the opposite, and before
TS> CR> you go plundering into a losing argument, you should scan the
TS> CR> definition in your webster's... submissiveness, not agression, is one
TS> CR> of the "defining characteristics" as you so well put it, of the
TS> CR> feminine behavioral pattern.
TS> Barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, eh? And just what century do you
TS> think you're living in?
TS> You might like that kind of woman, but most children want everything their
TS> way, too. I prefer a partner, not a slave.
yes... alot of people (especially women) would like to change centuries of
evolution in just a few decades, but it's not so easy. my personal work as a
tatoo artist has proven to me that the female sex is striving to the extreme to
become male. sometimes i laugh... but i always give them their tat's. i don't
expect to change anything, mr. sullivan, but i will propose to you this: coming
soon we are going to see a change. i see it happening every day. things are
losing their fast-paced "lets all be men" attitude, and women are beginning to
realize what they really want (ooooh.. i can just hear the frantic pounding of
girls at keyboards everywhere, heh heh).. i'll leave it at that, so as not to
stray too far off the Trek subject.
..c.raven..
TS> ... "You are not ready for immortality." --Kosh
TS> -*- ASTG 1.9
TS> --- Spot 1.3a Unregistered
TS> * Origin: Todd's Spot in the Continuum (1:202/720.3)
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Msg : 49 of 143
From : Channon Lang 1:130/809 .cę 21 .íâ 96 15:25
To : Otto Cordray
Subj : Re: The Guide and it's Incarnations...
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.TID: GE 1.11+
From a dark bottomless pit,Otto Cordray screamed up to Channon Lang about The
Guide and it's Incarnations.....
OC> The Hitchhiker's CD you spoke of...
OC> Is it actually the radio shows or is it the LP version?
I was under the impression it was the radio shows....but I'll check with
my friend to find out....he's long distance now, so it might take a little
bit.
Channon
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Msg : 50 of 143
From : Channon Lang 1:130/809 .cę 21 .íâ 96 15:27
To : Robert Siemborski
Subj : Babylon 5's sex scenes
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
From a dark bottomless pit,Robert Siemborski screamed up to Channon Lang about
Star Trek..
> RS> If you liked that one, be on the lookout for what jms called the
> RS> "funniest scene to date on the series" in the first of the new block
> RS> of episodes. Something that Ivonova says in Sheriden's bedroom is
> RS> supposed to be really funny. Take that for what you will.
>
> Hmmm, now THAT could be interesting....
RS> I think that was the point.
Well, I know this much....I'm tired of reruns!!!!
When are they gonna do something new?
Channon
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Msg : 51 of 143
From : Channon Lang 1:130/809 .cę 21 .íâ 96 15:30
To : Chris Ogniben
Subj : Re: X-files
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
From a dark bottomless pit,Chris Ogniben screamed up to Channon Lang about
X-files..
CO>
CO> Yeah i seen that x file episode with the killer roaches. It was a
CO> good episode. But, if your a person that can't live with bugs. Then
CO> it would be better off not to watch it. Of course those people that
CO> are afraid of bugs, are pussies. But, since bugs can't really hurt
Actually, that's not really a fair assumption....Especially if you've
EVER lived in the tropics. They don't really scare me so much as just
plain make my skin crawl.
CO> you, other than the ones that bite you and carry diseases, that bugs
CO> are not that bad. Of course if i see on around my room, i would
CO> probably kill it. But, back to talking about the x file episode. I
CO> have to admit, i thought at first that Mulder was crazzy to think that
CO> the aliens were sending these small robotic bugs to the planet earth
CO> as a robot to observe what goes on, on the earth. But, does anyone
CO> know if that was really true, or that Mulder was wrong about that.
CO> Unless there was a totally new reason that these bugs were killing
CO> people. I just like to discuss this further with anyone that replies
CO> to this.
I don't know the answer to that, since everyone I know, turned that episode
off....
Channon
... If it moves, it must belong to the cat ...
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Msg : 52 of 143
From : Channon Lang 1:130/809 .cę 21 .íâ 96 16:01
To : Glenn Shaheen
Subj : Re: Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
From a dark bottomless pit,Glenn Shaheen screamed up to Christian Raven about
Star Trek..
> I must have some problems with my terminal, I almost thought you said
>"good" and "ST:Voyager" in the same sentence.
GS> At least every episode isn't a comedy like some ST series...
GS> Ok, maybe there are some problems (the black Vulcan, since for
GS> what I've seen Vulcan is all the same climate) but there have been more
GS> good episodes than bad.
Black Vulcans are nothing new...look for them in the movie IN SEARCH FOR
SPOCK......
Channon
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Msg : 53 of 143
From : Chris Baugh 1:105/290.5 .˙ō 19 .íâ 96 20:02
To : All
Subj : nuclear energy echo?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
I'm curious if there's an echo dedicated to discussion of nuclear
energy and its alleged risks. If there isn't such an echo, maybe
an sf fan could start a NUCLEAR_RISK echo - there seems to be plenty
of interest in the science, not just the fiction, of this topic.
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