that has been found for Dark Shadows and most markedly Star Trek, among
others; in terms of merchandise, revivals, spinoffs, reruns, cons, and the
like, all moneymaking concerns; and the yet-unrealized consumer-good power
of "cult TV shows" which most network execs don't seem to appreciate.
Buy a length of black satin ribbon, and in the true Hollywood tradition,
festoon symbolic lengths of it on your clothing. When someone asks what it
stands for (and they will), TELL THEM.
IX.) EPILOGUE
Every little bit you can do helps. Mix and match the possibilities to best
suit your budget and time. If you have more, give more. If you have less;
talk, talk, talk to everyone you meet, and pass this document on!
Let's bring back the Knight!!!!!
... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.20
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Msg : 52 of 185
From : Bianca Wesslak 1:132/152 .cę 14 .íâ 96 01:00
To : Phill Ash
Subj : nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
From a woman with an overactive imagination.
PA> Hmmm.... The High-ASCII must not be translating. It's
PA> supposed to be the Greek spelling of "Thanatos", but the theta,
PA> omega and sigma aren't coming across...
What or who is Thanatos??
PA> Well, realistically speaking, you'd probably run out of
PA> ammunition before the looters finish ransacking your pantry...
what ammunition, I don't own a gun. The only thing close to that would
be a modified toy pellet gun my fiance has. What makes you so sure any
looters would hit my home and not some supermarket?? Where in the world
did you get the above statement from me saying I'd beg some native
americans for survival lessons?? Ya got me stumped.
... "Vegetarian": Indian word for "lousy hunter".
--- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR]
* Origin: The Cereal Port BBS (OS/2) Rindge,NH 603-899-3335 (1:132/152)
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Msg : 53 of 185
From : Bianca Wesslak 1:132/152 .cę 14 .íâ 96 01:18
To : Mark Jones
Subj : nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
From a woman with an overactive imagination.
MJ> Why would the electricity be gone? Maybe it just "went away". (The
MJ> novel ARIEL describes such a situation--a very good fantasy story,
MJ> too.)
I don't know, ask phlash, he's the one that came up with the scenario.
What's ARIEL bout??
MJ> The problem with your plan--learning to hunt and hang out on a
MJ> reservation--is that about 200,000,000 other people will be having
MJ> much the same idea. And the land can't possibly support even a tiny
MJ> fraction of that many. Remember--the native american population was
MJ> *tiny* compared to what we have today, and they had all of the
MJ> completely undeveloped continent to hunt. Large tracts of the
MJ> continent are now buried under concrete or cut up into farmland or
MJ> suburbs and thus unsuitable for supporting the game that might support
MJ> YOU (and me and everyone else).
Than I guess we are all gonna have to learn to adapt. I would also trust
to my instincs and my intuition. Should electricity just go away those
people on a reservation have more of a chance to survive than we do,
living in the suburbs. They have faced a lot of harsh conditions.
Besides it's the only plan that I can think of. The fall of electricity
has on upside, a lot of the bombs that the military controls, won't be
able to be set off.
... Imagination is more important than knowledge.
--- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR]
* Origin: The Cereal Port BBS (OS/2) Rindge,NH 603-899-3335 (1:132/152)
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Msg : 54 of 185
From : Bianca Wesslak 1:132/152 .cę 14 .íâ 96 01:40
To : Mark Jones
Subj : nuclear BS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
From a woman with an overactive imagination.
MJ> And since when does committing a felony against a corporation make it
MJ> less of a felony?
Did I say it was less than a felony?
MJ> We've already put hydroelectric power plants on most of the available
MJ> watercourses. As for wind and solar and geothermal--there simply
MJ> isn't ENOUGH of it to power our civilization. A high-tech
MJ> civilization requires vast amounts of energy, and the only available
MJ> sources concentrated enough to do the job are fossil fuels and nuclear
MJ> power.
How bout putting sturdy windmills during typhoon season, in the artic,
etc, wherever there is high wind. As for the only alternatives as
fossil fuels and nuke power, you are limiting yourself. Those fuels
will not last forever. what happens when those run out??? Necessity is
the mother of invention. I'm sure if we make it a necessity to work in
conjunction with the enviroment to find feasable and safe alternatives
to what we already use to make electrity then we shall find a way.
MJ> Caves can be *very* cold sometimes. And ask submariners about the
MJ> danger of fire in "nonflammable" areas like steel submarines....
I don't remember where I read or when, but the information told me
caves a standard temp year round, 70 something degrees in the summer,
and 50 something in the winter. Why else do you think animals like them,
and for that matter ancient humans. During winter they are insulated by
snow, which is a good insulator. As for the submarines they have flammable
substances inside of them. Caves have rock dirt, and green vegetation,
which can burn does so difficulty. there is also not enough fuel in a cave
to sustain a fire.
I have been racking my brain to get this topic back on topic, the only
thing I could think about was norton and her post apolyptic(I don't remember
the spelling for that word) books and the shannara series.
MJ> -!- PPoint 1.78
MJ> ! Origin: Folcroft Sanitarium (hsmith@cure.com) (1:105/302.47)
... Dragons rescued. Virgins slain.
--- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR]
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Msg : 55 of 185
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .ōp 16 .íâ 96 07:52
To : Channon Lang
Subj : Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, Channon Lang told Michael Harper all about
Star Trek...
CL> Isn't it interesting that 30 years ago Star Trek was on the edge about
CL> everything, and now it's considered safe? Times they are a changin',
CL> eh?
Most definitely, dear. For its time, Trek was one of the most daring
shows ever done. It still has its moments...
CL> Well, I'm a storyline person myself, and I had problems plopping
CL> myself into a place I really had no knowlege of. I think if they had
CL> pushed it a little bit more at the beginning, I might have adapted
CL> sooner. As it was, I didn't really like what I knew of the story, and
CL> therefore looked no further. That is, until had nothing else to do one
CL> day.
But see, there's the trick. You don't wanna do too much too fast, or
you risk running the viewers off before you can get them properly
hooked. With the pilot film, they had ninety or so minutes to tell the
story, and what with setting up the background, telling the story
itself, and everything else they had to do, the individual characters
got about three minutes each. Once the show got going, there was more
time to set things up, and characters could develop properly.
The studio is responsible for the lag between the pilot and the first
episode. Execs. Shoot 'em all and shove 'em out the damn airlock. Let
the people who actually know what they're doing run the studios for a
change...
--- RA/FD/FMail
* Origin: The Eclectic Fox -- Memphis, TN 901-327-1008 (1:123/10)
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Msg : 56 of 185
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .ķá 13 .íâ 96 16:05
To : Ken Mayes
Subj : nuclear BS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (12 Jan 96) Ken Mayes wrote to All...
KM> To me one of the greatest dangers of nuclear power is over
KM> dependence on it. We already rely far too heavily on it.
Not hardly. We don't use nearly enough.
KM> The law of averages say that eventually there will be a major
KM> accident here in the U.S. Not like the little one at TMI, but a big
KM> Chernobyl style release of radiation. A full meltdown...not a partial
KM> melt down but a full blown explosion destroying the containment
KM> building and many others around it. When that happens, public opinion
KM> will turn so far against nuclear.
Forty thousand (40,000) people are killed ANNUALLY by automobile
accidents in this country. I still have yet to see any mobs storming
General Motors or Ford plants, killing workings and demanding that we
return to the days of the horse and buggy.
How many people get killed plane crashes every year? Nobody is
demanding that we outlaw passenger flights. Nobody is storming
airports and vandalizing 747s.
KM> impact of such an event hits their pocket book. I'm talking the
KM> expenses of relocating millions of people, refugee camps, the
KM> resultant economic collapse and the geniune fear of the unknown which
KM> will pervade the populace.
WE DON'T USE CHERNOBYL-STYLE REACTORS. That design was considered
and rejected in this country specifically *because* of the danger of
what happened in the USSR. The same failures occurred at TMI, but a
superior design prevented the sort of disaster Chernobyl experienced.
KM> Protests at nuclear plants jumped after TMI. After an event of
KM> this magnitude...and again the law of averages dictate that one will
KM> eventually happen...many plants will literally be stormed and workers
KM> killed by angry mobs.
Crap. If the public turns into terrified nuclear luddites, the
SAFEST place to be will be the control rooms of nuclear power plants.
They'll be terrified to come near them.
KM> choose. That's when the over-dependence will come into play. Shut
KM> those reactors down and you shut down the economy. We're talking major
KM> economic depression here. Mark my words. One major accident...kiss our
KM> way of life goodbye. The US will be lucky to emerge at the the level
KM> of a third world nation.
As opposed to our reliance of foreign oil? We *had* a major
economic dislocation based on that in the 1970s. It wasn't pleasant,
but we survived. And we're doing considerably better than "third
world" nation status.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 57 of 185
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .ķá 13 .íâ 96 16:14
To : Bill Clements
Subj : NUCLEAR
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (10 Jan 96) Bill Clements wrote to All...
BC> Most of the discussion in this thread; and resulting
BC> threadlets; was addressed in "Fusion Without Ex-Lax" first
BC> published in "GALAXY" October 1976 (C)opyright by UPD Publishing
BC> Corporation Inc. and reprinted in "A STEP FARTHER OUT" (C)opyright
BC> 1979 by Jerry Pournelle, Ph.D..
