To : J.T. Smith
Subj : VIRTUAL SEX
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On (06 Jan 96) J.T. Smith wrote to ROBERT LIDGREN...
JS> Well, I can think of instances where it wouldn't be such a bad
JS> thing. I mean, there are people that I wouldn't mind sleeping
JS> with, but if I did, me fiance would kill me. OTOH, in the virtual
JS> realm, ye could experiment and nae anyone would get hurt. Only an
JS> idea. (Besides, in the same vein, ye could possibly experiment
JS> with ideas that ye've always wanted to try but are socially
JS> unacceptable. In this realm, what other people don't know canna
JS> hurt ye.)
...but if virtual sex is indistinguishable from actual sex, your
fiancee might be just as angry about your virtual infidelities as
she'd be about a flesh-and-blood tryst. Possibly more so--she
probably can safely assume that no matter how much you drool over
[insert starlet of your choice here], the chances of your actually
sleeping with her in reality are pretty slim. If she's available on a
$19.95 rental disk, though....
And if you engage your taste for pain by sadistically tormenting
virtual victims, are you still twisted psycho? Is it still a vicious,
evil thing to do? Even if nobody is *really* hurt? Even if you'd
never, ever do it to a REAL person?
I'd say: yes, it is still sick. Because you're engaging a taste
for inflicting misery on others--even if those others don't exist.
I'd also defend your right to do it since no *real* person is being
harmed. But I wouldn't care to associate with you much.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 115 of 225
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .ōp 09 .íâ 96 22:53
To : David Johnston
Subj : Nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (08 Jan 96) David Johnston wrote to Phill Ash...
DJ> -> I'm an idealist of the highest order and it's plain to me
DJ> -> that, due to the advances in medicine and refinement of food
DJ> -> and fuel, humanity (as a whole) is slowly becoming stupider
DJ> -> and weaker.
DJ>
DJ> Nope. Merely more adapted to it's present environment.
Yep. And if civilization collapses, those of us who cannot adapt
to the new situation will die off, leaving the survivors to repopulate
the planet with better-suited descendents. (I don't know about anyone
else, but *I* need glasses. And I'd be dead if not for the existence
of antibiotics.)
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 116 of 225
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .cę 07 .íâ 96 13:22
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : nuclear
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On (05 Jan 96) Brion Lienhart wrote to The Raven...
BL> But they won't die soon enough to prevent them from carrying the
BL> crap outside the disposal site and screwing up the surrounding
BL> countryside.
Keep in mind that the proposal was to mix the waste into concrete
blocks and stack them in this fenced off piece of desert. Nobody said
the blocks had to be *small*.
Do you know what a "Hercules Lock" is? The military uses them to keep
unauthorized people out of chemical warfare storage facilities here in
Oregon. Its a huge piece of concrete weighing tons which fits into a
hole in the concrete pad in front of the door to the warehouse. The
only possible way to move it is to use a crane.
Using a crane is noisy and obvious. Terrorists trying to steal the
materials are going to find it difficult to do so without waking the
guards when they start up the crane....
And nobody who doesn't have (or doesn't know how to drive) a crane is
going to move that lock at all.
So make the radioactive waste blocks six feet on a side and stack them
like pyramids. The morons can play on and around them all they want,
but they aren't going to strew them around the countryside.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 117 of 225
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 08 .íâ 96 18:55
To : Lawrence E Dunlap
Subj : tv and sf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (04 Jan 96) Lawrence E Dunlap wrote to Kevin Ahearn...
LE> The First Amendment is partly a problem. However, it is only a
LE> small part of the problem.
I don't consider it a problem--I consider it a blessing. A
miracle, even, given the government we have.
LE> My issue is the manner in which the (obviously materialistic)
LE> creative community openly admits severely educationally compromised
LE> producers into their ranks.
LE>
LE> In any alternative television occupation such as media news
LE> journalism or the technical television occupations, such analogs
LE> of the educationally compromised producers wouldn't make the
LE> final cut for the *first* interview.
I think you're giving the rest of the media too much credit. Ask
anyone who works in a given field how accurately the media reports the
reality of their field...and stand back. And I know first-hand (as a
fire-breathing Second Amendment advocate who watches these things)
just how ignorant most of the media are about firearms. And I'm not
talking about their political views--I'm talking about basic facts
regarding the technology, the construction, operation and and
terminology of firearms. They haven't got a clue.
LE> The defectives seem to be liberally indulged in their unworkable
LE> flights of fancy which sometimes make a great amount of unexpected
LE> money. I suspect there are times when these are loathed when
LE> obmoxiously insouciant with some more literate producer or outsider.
And how does this differ from any other field, where your ability
to get results for your employers matters more to them than your
personality or education? If my stockbroker is a barely housebroken
moron with grade-school politics...but he nonetheless can make me
richer than Croesus, I'll live with that.
LE> What I'm wishing for is a housecleaning of educational defectives
LE> from TV and movie studios at the hands of several fairly
LE> visionary media executive leaders who will expect nothing less
LE> than substantial capacity to be inspired, challenged and
LE> motivated to produce "high quality" yet accessable prodcutions
LE> because of their exposure to moderm and classical literature and
LE> arts. Most of our classical literature was populist writings that
LE> struck an echo in successive generations.
What you're wishing for is a "Culture Czar" like William Bennett--with
the political power to shoot everyone who doesn't toe the line.
That's the ONLY way you could get what you want. And frankly, *I'd*
shoot back, if it came to that. Thanks, but no thank.
LE> Next is a housecleaning of advertizing agnecy executives who
LE> lower the denominators of the concepts in TV that corrupts the
LE> average viewer to accept literal *sewage*
Why am I reminded of the Khmer Rouge rounding up villagers and working
them in the fields all day, then shooting everyone who developed
blisters because they were obviously intellectuals (who'd never done
heavy manual labor)?
LE> I would prefer the literacy of British TV producers to the American
LE> defectives. American TV houses don't expect enough of their employees
Keep in mind that they have no freedom of speech in Britain. You're
allowed to say only as much as the gummint *lets* you say. That's a
mighty steep price for the alleged superiority of their product.
LE> Europeans expect greater exposure to high literature and arts to
LE> create an understanding of the best of the breed of the
LE> arts--leading to production tensions between high art and the
LE> tasdte of the multitudes.
Meanwhile, BAYWATCH (created by those morons in Hollywood) is the
most-watched show IN THE WORLD--including Europe.
LE> Most disturbing is the low quality of commerical American TV and
...which gets exported all over the world because people WANT it.
LE> I suggest that similar care and devotion to high art in the hands
LE> of a sufficiently literate and developed production house could
LE> lift sf tv as well, if a strong-spirited visionary will take
LE> charge of a studio invest in that producer even as he clears out
LE> deadwood educational defect8ives and brings commonly literate
LE> producers and workers.
This is America. Go for it. Build a better mousetrap--and you can
become the Bill Gates of the next century.
LE> Simply put, when you lead and train someone as though they will
LE> and *can* become what they *could* be and be the very best at the
LE> same time, the mentored almost certainly will rise to that level
LE> of expectation or fall short of it because of natural
LE> deficencies.
Or they'll turn you off and go watch Baywatch because you're boring
the pants off them with your pseudo-intellectual claptrap. BAYWATCH
doesn't outdraw Masterpiece Theatre because they have more money--they
have more money because they outdraw Masterpiece Theatre. They're
giving their audience what the audience wants. (Gadzooks--letting the
unwashed masses see what they like? Civilization falls! Film at
11:00!)
LE> American TV production houses lack people with the specific
LE> literary breeding to accomplish this apart from a thorough
LE> housecleaning with replacement with significantly improved
LE> education and vastly changed attitude about producing low concept
LE> TV.
So when can I expect to see you CNN cleaning house with an AK-47?
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 118 of 225
From : Jan vantEnt 2:512/1.1 .îí 08 .íâ 96 07:58
To : Marco Catalano
Subj : Space: Above & Beyond
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.TID: FastEcho 1.30/g 4253
Hi Marco, in a message of <5 Jan 95> you mentioned to Samantha Dobbs:
> SD> Are there any fan out there?
MC> Dunno yet, Samantha.
MC> The pilot of SAAB is airing in the Netherlands tomorrow.
Yah, seen it, and found it rather disappointing.
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Msg : 119 of 225
From : David Johnston 1:342/14 .åō 11 .íâ 96 01:12
To : Phill Ash
Subj : F&sf???
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> No really...
-> Have *you* heard anything confirming or denying the return of
-> 'Sliders'?
From "Previews" (a comic book distributors magazine):
"As of this writing, the Sliders TV show has been scheduled to return
as a mid season replacement on Fox, starting sometime in early '96.
Stay updated and in tune on Slider's continuity as the (comic book)
miniseries picks up where the TV show leaves off. Don't get left out of
the excitement and miss this landmark miniseries..."
--- PCBoard (R) v15.21/100
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