because I love science fiction and some fantasy and some horror (also
enjoy the odd TALES FROM THE CRYPT episode because of the wit).
Oh well, I could go on but I hear the bandwidth police siren blaring so
I had better sign off.
Cheers,
-Rob
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Msg : 158 of 225
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .˙ō 12 .íâ 96 22:19
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Re: nuclear BS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
NS> CG>Gamma is a particle wave similar to light (but higher energy and
NS> CG>different
NS> CG>wave length). Your microwave emits these to cook your food.
NS>
NS> I thought that microwaves used a somewhat different range of the
NS> electromagnetic spectrum. As in, radio band?
Quite right. At 2450 Mhz (2.45 Ghz) for most home ovens. To hell and gone from
gamma-ray wavelengths. (Would that we did have a gamma source that could be
turned on and off as easily...but *not* in the average kitchen...!)
Frank
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Msg : 159 of 225
From : Christian Raven 1:393/7 .˙ō 12 .íâ 96 21:17
To : Mark Jones
Subj : Re: VIRTUAL SEX
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On Tue 9-Jan-1996 10:48p, Mark Jones said to J.t. Smith:
MJ> On (06 Jan 96) J.T. Smith wrote to ROBERT LIDGREN...
MJ> JS> Well, I can think of instances where it wouldn't be such a bad
MJ> JS> thing. I mean, there are people that I wouldn't mind sleeping
MJ> JS> with, but if I did, me fiance would kill me. OTOH, in the virtual
MJ> JS> realm, ye could experiment and nae anyone would get hurt. Only an
MJ> JS> idea. (Besides, in the same vein, ye could possibly experiment
MJ> JS> with ideas that ye've always wanted to try but are socially
MJ> JS> unacceptable. In this realm, what other people don't know canna
MJ> JS> hurt ye.)
MJ> ...but if virtual sex is indistinguishable from actual sex, your
MJ> fiancee might be just as angry about your virtual infidelities as
MJ> she'd be about a flesh-and-blood tryst. Possibly more so--she
MJ> probably can safely assume that no matter how much you drool over
MJ> [insert starlet of your choice here], the chances of your actually
MJ> sleeping with her in reality are pretty slim. If she's available on a
MJ> $19.95 rental disk, though....
MJ> And if you engage your taste for pain by sadistically tormenting
MJ> virtual victims, are you still twisted psycho? Is it still a vicious,
MJ> evil thing to do? Even if nobody is *really* hurt? Even if you'd
MJ> never, ever do it to a REAL person?
MJ> I'd say: yes, it is still sick. Because you're engaging a taste
MJ> for inflicting misery on others--even if those others don't exist.
MJ> I'd also defend your right to do it since no *real* person is being
MJ> harmed. But I wouldn't care to associate with you much.
On the other hand, I've noticed that alot of men have these "sadistical,
psychotic" desires... perhaps it is simply our society that teaches us that
these are sick. I'm not going to sit here and seriously condone sexual sadism,
but if it's all part of the male psyche then perhaps crimes could be prevented
through VR sex, eh?
..ebony
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Msg : 160 of 225
From : Philip Crookes 2:2433/204 .ķá 13 .íâ 96 04:16
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : NUCLEAR
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
> Barring a complete collapse of our civilization, I imagine
> that the purple trefoil will remain a good warning. If it's
Turkish people, and some Asian societies, shake their heasds when they mean
'yes'
It would not be hard to suppos ethat a purple trefoil could be interpreted as
meaning...
playground
sex parlour
lunch
safety
friends
*Philip*
(not to be interpreted)
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Msg : 161 of 225
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .åō 11 .íâ 96 11:06
To : Tisha Mcgary
Subj : Earth 2
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, Tisha Mcgary told Michael Harper all about
Highlander...
TM> Am I the only one who was seriously put out by the cancellation of
TM> that show? I loved it!!!
It just never did anything for me. There were some good bits, but
overall the show never caught my interest.
TM> -!- Maximus 2.02
TM> ! Origin: The PYRAMID bbs (1:350/33)
... Don't mind him. He's from Barcelona.
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Msg : 162 of 225
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .åō 11 .íâ 96 11:06
To : Star Hawk
Subj : Re: B5 -- Coincidence?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, Star Hawk told Jeff Hancock all about
B5 -- Coincidence?...
SH> I'm at a loss to find any real connection between WoH and B5...
SH> and i've seen WoH [although not recently]. Without more to go on, i'd
SH> go with the overactive imagination.
And considering Joe has never seen any anime, or if he has it didn't
make any impression on him, the odds of his having pirated scenes from
WoH are pretty slim... He's pointed out, more than once, that he's
dealing with universal archetypes here; a lot of the story elements are
ones that've been around for millenia, from the Homeric hymns to the
present day. Anyone with sufficient imagination can find anything they
want in B5, from parallels of the war in Bosnia to, as Joe put it, LORD
OF THE RINGS with the numbers filed off. But it's all original; Joe
didn't bust his ass for five years getting this show on the air just to
do a refitted LotR.
... Drink your coffee! There are poor people in India sleeping.
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Msg : 163 of 225
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .åō 11 .íâ 96 11:06
To : Star Hawk
Subj : MidSouth Con XV
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, Star Hawk told Darre LuAllen all about
Khans - Nooga way...
SH> Then you were around when i was part of the Chattacon board [Head
SH> Video]; you will likely spot me wandering the dealers' room...
SH> probably with my laptop in tow. [Considering the hour this is being
SH> written, i'm doing good to remember my own name, much less who's
SH> scheduled for the cons... ]
And if you make it this direction in March, I'll see you at MSC XV.
Call Greg at (901) 274-7355 for info...
... Newt-changers. Plagues. Curses. My spell check is done.
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Msg : 164 of 225
From : John Mcgill 1:123/10 .åō 11 .íâ 96 20:25
To : Tisha Mcgary
Subj : Earth2
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Quoting Tisha Mcgary to Michael Harper <=-
MH> ... I watched E2
MH> mostly for him, on those odd occasions when I watched it at all.
TM> Am I the only one who was seriously put out by the cancellation of
TM> that show?
TM> I loved It!!!
Count me in. I thought Earth2 was one the best shows to hit network
television. Each week I would travel to a friends house for the sole
purpose of watching the show. After dinner the world stopped while we
sat glued to the set.
----JOHN
... Trekkers work out at the He's Dead Gym.
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Msg : 165 of 225
From : John Mcgill 1:123/10 .åō 11 .íâ 96 20:25
To : Michael Harper
Subj : tv and sf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Quoting Michael Harper to Lawrence E Dunlap <=-
MH> Exactly. Most of Hollywood despises Chris Columbus, f'rinstance, but
MH> would never admit it because the guy's a moneymaker. When he starts
MH> his downhill slide, the backstabbers will appear in droves. I
MH> personally can't stand the man because I consider him a hack who isn't
MH> fit to carry the pencil case of a real writer; and yet this yutz is
MH> responsible for both _Gremlins_ and _Mrs. Doubtfire_, both of which
MH> were serious cash cows.
Say, isn't this also the same hack who wrote _E.T._?
----JOHN
... °°ąą˛˛ÛÛ IN STEREO WHERE AVAILABLE ÛÛ˛˛ąą°°
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Msg : 166 of 225
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .˙ō 12 .íâ 96 11:45
To : Channon Lang
Subj : Re: Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, Channon Lang told Michael Harper all about
Star Trek...
CL> Actually, if you want to know the truth, until this last season, I
CL> couldn't stand Babylon 5. I think, though, it was the different
CL> writing methods and the different types of special effects that I had
CL> problems adjusting to. The episode that caught my attention is the one
CL> that had the "sex scene" in it. I just happened to be channel surfing
CL> and those particular aliens caught my attention. I just about died
CL> laughing at that one. I've been hooked ever since.
CL> I think what happens is people just had gotten used to seeing
CL> Starfleet and some people, myself included, had problems adjusting.
Exactly. It's hard to compete with something that's been part of the
cultural landscape for the last thirty years; Trek has been around for
a long time, and as you say, people had gotten used to it. It was
familiar, comfortable. Then here comes this new show, with a whole new
concept, and diehard Trekkers have a tough time with it. Some, like
three in particular on Usenet, will never accept the show, and will
savage anyone who's a fan. You're doing okay, Channon.
See, the trick here has been to establish an individual identity. B5 is
itself, and Trek, in all its various forms, is itself. They're two
entirely different shows, with nothing in common except some of the
actors and writers. Even that connection is tenuous; Walter Koenig's
character, Bester, is so totally unlike Pavel Chekov that I have a hard
time now imagining Walter playing such a nice, likeable guy. The
scripts that D.C. Fontana and David Gerrold have written for B5 are
much more adult and gritty than anything they wrote for Trek. Again,
though, there's a thirty-year gap there; the work that these young
