ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=< Leman Russ used the Jedi Mind Trick on me!>=-
DL> I thought he was very well played. The fingernail being
DL> pulled off, his leather, his coldness in killing everyone(unlike that
DL> Matter Decompressor
LR> I think what he used was called a "Tissue compression eliminator"...
"You are correct, sir!" Been a while since I dug out the tapes and
watched a couple of episodes.
-=The DoLittle 8-)=-
... "It worked! Now if only I could remember what I did!" The Doctor
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Msg : 19 of 154
From : Earl Green 1:3822/1 .pä 22 .āé 96 13:53
To : All
Subj : Second movie unlikely.
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Geez, it gets WORSE.
If anyone's going to save Doctor Who now, it will have to be the BBC
and/or an American syndication distributor.
The word came in from Fox this morning - Doctor Who BOMBED in the
ratings. It was their lowest rated Movie of the Week for the May sweeps
period, and one of the lowest rated Fox broadcasts overall for that same
period. There were numerous cartoons that topped it ratings-wise.
As you probably know if you read my earlier diatribe about ratings
and how seriously American networks and distributors take them, you will
know that this makes a second movie outing for the Doc on U.S. TV *very*
unlikely. Even the theoretical prospect of syndication of new shows is
not promising, for the same reason. In the eyes of the networks,
distributors and TV stations, Doctor Who proved itself to be a total
wash-out...and then, they'll argue, why should we pick up a show that
won't pull in the needed numbers?
I'll be interested to see Segal's take on this, as well as any word
from the BBC. It's not completely impossible for the entire production
to move back to England, though I wonder if that would affect emigre'
McGann's involvement. The standard of effects today, even at the Beeb
and especially with computer image processing and effects (witness RD6),
means that a new series made in Britain in '96 or '97 would not be far
behind the quality of the Fox movie, though it would probably be shot on
video.
This just isn't a banner week in Doctor Who history. 8-{
e <-- Earl Green (earl.green@f1.n3822.z1.fidonet.org) 1:3822/1
Producer/staff artist, Fox 46/UPN 32, Fort Smith, AR
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Msg : 20 of 154
From : Bob Klahn 1:234/2 .pä 22 .āé 96 17:15
To : Ken Mayes
Subj : DR. WHO
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
KM> On Fri 17-May-1996 6:18p, Bob Klahn wrote:
BK>> The Doctor is not half human.
KM> The Doctor's human connection was alluded to many times during
KM> the final three years of the BBS series.
Otherwise known as the "Years of Decline."
BK>> The TARDIS does not have an "Eye of Harmony" that will open for a human
BK>> and
BK>> suck in the Earth. If they want to invent one they could do a better job
BK>> of
BK>> it.
KM> Actually the 'Eye of Harmony' does not exist within the TARDIS.
KM> The thing in the TARDIS was merely the dimensional doorway to
KM> the eye. The 'Eye' was introduced in the original series and
KM> was stated to have been a black hole that Rassilon captured and
KM> held in dimensional stasis against the mass of the planet
KM> Galifrey. In fact, it was the Master who originally opened the
KM> Gallifreyan portal to the 'Eye' in the Tom Baker era which
KM> almost destroyed the Timelord's home world. The 'Eye' was
KM> stated to be the source of the Timelords powers.
Now I vaguely recall it. Still don't care for the gimmick.
BK>> The Doctor cannot bring people back to life by going back before they
BK>> died.
BK>> That is well established. When they die they stay dead.
KM> The Doctor didn't do it. Remember he uttered the line "What a
KM> sentimental old thing this TARDIS is. That indicated to me that TARDIS
KM> itself did that, and remember the energy that emerged from the eye and
KM> enveloped them. I may be wrong, but I suspect that also had something
KM> to do with it.
I suspect that had everything to do with it, but it still don't work. The
Tardis can't do it either. If it could have it would have shown up before.
Whole armies have died, and nobody came back to life.
BOB KLAHN
... Every time I get near the top, they move the top. The Dead Zone at Has one of the Largest Sci-FI file areas you've ever
Internet address?
BOB KLAHN
... Take two Chill Pills, and call me in the morning!
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Msg : 22 of 154
From : Bob Klahn 1:234/2 .pä 22 .āé 96 17:15
To : Wes Yahola
Subj : STARSHIP TROOPERS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
WY> Wind was a pretty fine film. So I guess it's not impossible, but I
WY> would so fear another Dune)
LED>> serious, knowledgeable script writers and left as intact as possible.
WY> Let's hope.
Amen.
BOB KLAHN
... One was a pompous ass, the other a garden-variety ass.
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Msg : 23 of 154
From : The Raven 1:363/309 .pä 22 .āé 96 14:39
To : Helen Peagram
Subj : Highlander
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
"This just in from our Moscow Bureau..."
HP>I watched it for a while, but soon grew bored with it. It
HP>isn't realistic.
It's fantasy. Get over it.
Jack Butler
... "Whatever happened to Fay Wray?" -- Dr. Frank N. Furter
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Msg : 24 of 154
From : Bob Ziesmer 1:230/16 .pä 22 .āé 96 22:25
To : Leman Russ
Subj : Re: White star = the defiant
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
> I thin kthe white star from B5 is a blatant ripoff ofthe Deifant from DS9.
>Look at the facts:
> Both ships are extremely small compared to normal ships oftheir respective
>forces.
> Both ships are highly advanced and powerful warships that can defeat much
>larger opponents.
> Both ships were designed to fight a specific alien aggressor. The defiant
>was built to fight the borg and the Ws was to fight the shadows.
> Both ships have unusual technology. IThe Ws has a jump drive which is very
>unusualk for a ship that small in B5 and the defiant had a cloaking device
>which is unique for federation ships in DS9.
> Also, the white star looks an awful lot like a Romulan warbird from TNG.
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A rip off! Come on. While there are similar setups for the ships existence. The
fact is well known that ST borrows from several other scifi genera for many
story lines. The White Star is a living ship, part vorlon technology. The
defiant is simply a federation ship with a cloaking device. If you look at
starships in ST the size of the ship is for long duration missions. Several
years usually. If you build a ship with limited mission range, Put the best
engines you can get on it and some new weapon designs you have the defiant. I
believe the mission duration for the defiant is only 6 months or so but I could
be wrong. And to top it all off I have found the storylines in B5 much more
entertaining and interesting than DSN9 has had to offer. This is not to say DSN9
does not have any interesting stories, just I have found B5's alittle better.
BOBZ
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Msg : 25 of 154
From : Bill Warren 1:102/749 .ķá 25 .āé 96 08:24
To : Bob Klahn
Subj : Re: STARSHIP TROOPERS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
BK> LED>> serious, knowledgeable script writers and left as intact as
BK> possible.
BK>
BK> WY> Let's hope.
I see. What you want is a movie of young men sitting in a classroom going
"Huh?" when a teacher states something. With about fifteen minutes of battle
scenes.
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Msg : 26 of 154
From : Gerry Normandeau 1:163/430 .ķá 25 .āé 96 15:34
To : David Little
Subj : dr. who
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Standing at the gallows pole David Little spat a curse on Gerry Normandeau,
accusing him of dr. who!
DL> -=< Gerry Normandeau used the Jedi Mind Trick on me!>=-
LR> Sppoiler for Dr. Who 96.
DL> Reply Spoiler!
DL> Yeah, that was a bit of a dissapointment. Perhaps a Time Lord
DL> can reconstitue themselves after a dissintegration? If you remember
DL> "Brain of Morbius" the Time Lords scattered Morbius's "Atoms to the
DL> four corners of the universe" to perhaps prevent this.
GN> Acctually this is covered in the series. The master at one point takes
GN> over the powers of a god, Damn if I can't remember his name! But I do
GN> Remember that the symbol of this god was a cobra, and very much like
GN> what they showed. I have to go back and ask my friends what the name
GN> of that god was!
DL>
DL> The only snake one I remember was the one that took over Tegan
DL> in her dream (I can't remember the episode).
GN> And remember the master has many tricks up his sleave
GN> and they did keep all his parts together in a pot unlike Morbius who
GN> was scattered to ends of the universe.
DL>
DL> My point exactly. Perhaps Time Lords know they can
DL> reconstitute themselves after dissentegration which is why Morbius was
DL> scattered and not kept in a pot.
GN> God I hope they play the show again here. I havent seen it for years.
DL>
DL> I have almost every episode they've aired, even the complete
