DJ> movement. Given the instant acceleration you describe, it sounds like
DJ> some kind of reflection or diffraction in the atmosphere.
I saw it in Furudal (transl. "Pine Valley"), a small town in the middle region
of Sweden, and I guess you're right about it looking like a star.
You can't estimate the distance to a star, and maybe not to this either, but it
was much more closer than a satellite or a star, and it kept on dropping
these shooting stars on the ground, so I can't accept the idea of it being a
reflection, nor diffraction. And if it was a reflection, how come I wasn't the
only witness? About diffraction, we have these beautiful colors appearing
some nights on the sky (Sorry, don't seem to recall what it's called in English)
that the Swedes call "Northern shine". But whatever I saw, I know that I've
never seen anything like this...
/// -Tommy K.- \\\
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Msg : 84 of 106
From : Tommy Kellerman 2:205/356 .îí 05 .åâ 96 20:46
To : Gary Warren
Subj : UFO
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message dated 24-Jan-96 18:11:11, Gary Warren wrote:
TK> About 7 P.M., the 'object' headed west, so maybe some of you guys will
TK> catch a glimpse as well?
GW> Maybe this was when the latest space shuttle flight was heading back home?
Naaah! Ever seen a shuttle breaking in the atmosphere like hitting a brick wall?
GW> If not, better put in a call to Scully or Mulder's cell phone! ;D
Gimme the number :D
/// -Tommy K.- \\\
PS.
Noticed you had a bar... A beer on the double..
DS.
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Msg : 85 of 106
From : Tommy Kellerman 2:205/356 .îí 05 .åâ 96 23:10
To : Owen E. Oulton
Subj : X-FILES
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message dated 31-Jan-96 20:46:02, Owen E. Oulton wrote:
FS> syzygy: a pair of things, eps. a pair of opposites
How do you pronounce this word?
/// -Tommy K.- \\\ * Enlighten me *
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Msg : 86 of 106
From : Tommy Kellerman 2:205/356 .îí 05 .åâ 96 23:23
To : Frank Glover
Subj : Re: Alien threats?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message dated 03-Feb-96 22:07:05, Frank Glover wrote:
FG> But against terrestrial life forms, we have intelligence and
FG> technology on our side. (Even if dolphins are sentient, they live in an
FG> environment, with body forms that don't lend themselves to making
FG> technology.)
Yes, we have the intelligence and the body required to reach out into the
galaxy, but wouldn't this make us a powerful ally, instead of the enemy?
FG> If they should happen to believe in the Hicks/Ripley philosophy ("Nuke
FG> em' from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."), then we're done. And
FG> indeed, even when we *do* gain a major interstellar travel capability
FG> (and all the tech it implies), there's always a possibility of running
FG> into someone who will outclass us. It's just that right now, we're dog
FG> meat for anyone capable of coming here, if it came to that.
Nuke us? Why would they? We are a quite peaceful race, living in a world which
still has blue oceans and fertile agricultural areas. If they nuked us they
wouldn't have the living world of today before them, just a sterile lifeless
rock. I don't know, but I don't think this is their purpose.
/// -Tommy K.- \\\
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Msg : 87 of 106
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .cę 11 .åâ 96 00:28
To : Christian Raven
Subj : Re: Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Christian Raven (1:393/7@fido) wrote to Ecarey:
CR>psychologically and physically. this is quite obvious, as (a)
CR>there has never been a female president in the leading country of
CR>the world, and (b) there has NEVER been a female weight-lifter
CR>even NEARLY as strong as a male. women are physically weaker,
CR>and mentally less rational, the latter which could be obviously
CR>argued to a standstill... although there are many signs of this.
Great Britain: Margaret Thatcher. (Prime Minister)
Israel: Golda Meir. (Prime Minister)
There are other countries that have been ruled by women in this century.
Mentally less rational? Horse hockey.
Weaker, well...NASA studies have shown that, all other factors being equal
(primarily training) women are able to remain conscious at higher stress and
pain levels than men, but men are able to remain functional (able to do other
things besides just remain conscious) at higher stress and pain levels than
women. BUT, and it is a big but, a trained woman is so far superior to an
untrained man that the results aren't even funny.
Men tend to have greater upper body strength than women. But women tend to live
longer than men (their basic constitutions tend to be better, and their systems
are designed for "dual support"...funny about that...and tend to be just a wee
bit tougher over the long haul).
-- Nicolai Shapero, the Mad Russian Sysop of StormGate Aerie
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Msg : 88 of 106
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .cę 11 .åâ 96 00:17
To : Christian Raven
Subj : Re: Star Trek Sexism
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Christian Raven (1:393/7@fido) wrote to Robert Lidgren:
CR>i dont care what else anyone has to say, if you want to argue
CR>with what i just said, i'm not even going to bother to reply,
CR>because i know that it is factual. xxx
It isn't what we don't know that hurts us; it's what we know that isn't so...
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Msg : 89 of 106
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .cę 11 .åâ 96 00:23
To : Gerry Normandeau
Subj : The Twelve Monkies
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Gerry Normandeau (1:163/430) wrote to All:
GN>Hi all. I have a real brain buster for you. I have recently
GN>watched the movie The Twelve Monkies. And I must say it was
GN>another winner from our friend Terri Gillium.
GN> What I want to ask is, does anyone out there remembur the
GN>name of the movie that this film is based on? I remembur seeing
GN>it a long time ago on TVO's Magic Shadows with Elwy Yost. Now
GN>this
GN>dates me for those who remember! :)
GN> The film was from France. It was filmed as a series of still
GN>photos with a naration. All I can remembur is that it began
GN>with a little boy witnesing a runnung man being shot down, Then
GN>for some reason war brakes out, and the world is destroyed excep
GN>for a handfull of survivors. The hero of the film, who was the
GN>boy at the begining is scent back in time to try and stop what
GN>happened but like in the Twelve Monkies is shot down in front of
GN>the
GN>little boy he was. And ashe dies the movie ends.
GN> If any one can remembur this movie and its name please let me
GN>know!
GN> Thanks All!
The movie was, IIRC, entitled LA JETTE. A really strange time travel thing
wherein our protagonist ends up getting a power source from his own future and
being murdered in the past (viewed by himself). Quite bizarre.
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Msg : 90 of 106
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .cę 11 .åâ 96 00:27
To : David Schumaker
Subj : Used computers/equipment need for Gambian school
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , David Schumaker (1:120/125) wrote to All:
DS> USED COMPUTERS/EQUIPMENT NEED FOR GAMBIAN SCHOOL
Excuse me, please, but the content of this message had absolutely NOTHING to do
with the subject of this conference.
Do not do this again.
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Msg : 91 of 106
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .åō 08 .åâ 96 11:20
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : GULLIVER'S TRAVELS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
> OK, so who else watched this? I liked it a lot. At first the "at
> home" scenes got in the way, but they seemed to fit in better in the
> second half. It must have been way too long since I last read it
> (ok, nearly 20 years), but I couldn't remember any of the stuff
> between him leaving the island of Laputa and landing in the land of
> the Wymnynmnynns (sp?).
I taped it and watched the first half last night - loved it.
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Msg : 92 of 106
From : ROBERT LIDGREN 1:134/10 .˙ō 09 .åâ 96 22:40
To : CHRISTIAN RAVEN
Subj : NO FACTS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> RL> Oh well, it is true there are more STRONG women characters in science
-> RL> fiction
-> RL> now and, you know what, there have been strong women all through history
-> -
-> This is ridiculous... the entire point is that there have been FAR more male
-> hunters, FAR more male presidents, FAR more male captains, FAR more male
-> providers, and that by physically examining women it is OBVIOUS that they
-> have evolved in the fashion they have due to FAR less workload than men..
-> thats it. i dont care what else anyone has to say, if you want to argue
-> with what i just said, i'm not even going to bother to reply, because i know
-> that it is factual. xxx
FAR LESS WORKLOAD! What planet have you been living on? This has no bais in
fact. Just because men have bneen able to lift a heavier rock than women
doesn't negate the fact that women lift smaller rocks ALL DAY LONG.
Certainly, in the Third World today, women tend to do most of the grunt work
due to their subservient postions.
Saying that "you don't care what anyone eslse has to say" speaks volumes about
the CONTENT OF YOUR ARGUMENT - very, very weak! Listen Christian, I wrote you
a long message provinging a large number of observations. The very fact you
couldn't deal with any of them in a satisfactory manner betrays the weakness of
