cool.
Frakes hasn't vanished entirely. All the stuff he's doing now is just
downtime between Trekflix. I suspect he's already working on Trek VIII,
in fact. I need to check Hollywood Reporter for the latest production
listings, but I'd be surprised if the next Trek film wasn't already in
preproduction.
... I had a normal childhood, but I overcame it.
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Msg : 165 of 187
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .pä 03 .ķā 96 13:59
To : Robert Lidgren
Subj : VIRTUAL SEX
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, ROBERT LIDGREN told FRANK GLOVER all about
VIRTUAL SEX...
RL> Virtual sex - does it lead to virtual families...?
Actually, Rob, it does...
In a game of Legend Of The Red Dragon that runs on a local board, I'm
married to a delightful young woman who has borne me probably twenty
kids as of this date. Right now, we've only got eight or nine; they
keep tailing us into the forest and before you know it, they're monster
chow. We're not being irresponsible; the game tells me every other day
that my wife has given me another child. Dana has run out of names for
the kids; one of the most recent was named Not Again...
... "I could have conquered Europe, but I had women in my life." Henry II
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Msg : 166 of 187
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .pä 03 .ķā 96 13:59
To : Mark Jones
Subj : Dangerous Babes
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, Mark Jones told Michael Harper all about
-=> Cybersex...
MJ> That explains it. I never watch S:A&B. I couldn't get past the
MJ> silly notion of aircraft carriers in space (they're even *shaped* like
MJ> carrier, big and flat...) and human-piloted space fighters dodging and
MJ> jinking in outer space.
That's the one complaint I have about the show; the space combat scenes
are way too Star Wars-ish to suit me. They do try to rationalize it,
though, by saying that the Hammerhead is designed for combat both in
space and in atmosphere. There are some large holes in credibility on
the show, but I can forgive a lot of them; this is still first season,
and a lot of bugs are being shaken out. The cast isn't exactly what I'd
call typical jarheads, but they're pretty good just the same. And at
this point, I'd watch the show no matter how bad it was, just to get an
eyeful of Kristen Cloke and Lanei Chapman...
MH> Marie Marshall was in a single episode of B5, "GROPOS". She played
MH> Dodger, a Marine corporal who tries to rip Garibaldi's clothes off.
MJ> Maybe you just like dangerous women. I know I do. (I didn't realize
MJ> it at first, until a female friend of mine who knew my tastes in
MJ> actresses explained it to me--they're mostly dark-haired women that
MJ> I've seen stomping bad guys into jelly in various flicks.)
Oh, yeah... Definitely love dangerous women. The one I'm chasing
now is taking about three forms of kung fu and can put an entire clip
of 9mm into a one-inch circle...
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Msg : 167 of 187
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .ņp 02 .ķā 96 06:09
To : Bianca Wesslak
Subj : NUCLEAR BS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
BW> TS> TMI had no explosion. Nuclear fuel is processed differently than
BW> TS> weapons loads, and uses different isotopes. No way it can happen
BW> Than what did happen at three mile Island?????. Never say Never, nothing
BW> is ever truly safe. TRY MURPHY'S LAWS
Try acquainting yourself with the facts.
What happened at TMI was that, after a series of human errors resulting
in failures of safety systems, there was a _small_ leakage of radiation
into the atmosphere. The limited evacuations that took place were purely
precautionary, _in case_ something worse went wrong while they were in
the process of getting things back under control - as events actually
unfolded, there was never any real danger, and everyone evacuated would
have been perfectly safe staying home.
One of the more interesting features of this is that it demonstrates how
_safe_ a standard American nuclear power plant is - the initial failures
that occurred at TMI were the same as the initial failures at Chernobyl,
but the redundant safety features, including real containment towers,
and safety procedures required at American nuclear power plants meant
that the process was stopped in its tracks long before there was any
danger, while Chernobyl barrelled straight on to total disaster.
But even at Chernobyl, what happened _wasn't_ an explosion, and calling
it that doesn't make it one, and not knowing the difference doesn't make
your arguments any more credible.
BW> TS> The only way that can happen is with weapons fire.
BW> What about an inside mishap in a nuke sub, I seriously doubt weapons fire
BW> is the only thing that can hurt a nuke sub, then again they said the Titani
BW> was unsinkable.
But in fact there haven't been any such "mishaps". There's a _lot_ of
nuclear subs out there, and some of them are getting old. Proper safety
features combined with proper safety procedures and proper maintenance
really do make a difference, and it's pointless to base your arguments
on what _could_ happen, if everyone involved with the design and
operation of nuclear subs was a complete, blithering idiot.
BW> As for the manhattan project, they worked on the A bomb, and I read mostly
BW> fantasy, and not bad sci fi. I've also visited a nuclear power plant in
BW> Maine, I think it's name is yankee something or other.
Maine Yankee, one of the best-run plants in the country.
BW>I do admit to being
BW> wrong occasionly
Getting your facts wrong tends to damage your credibility.
BW>but my info generally comes from people who have some
BW> knowledge of what they are talking about.
Apparently _not_, based on the nonsense you've posted here.
BW>Besides which, large explosions
BW> are not the only danger, how bout radiation leaks,
TMI was the worst radiation leak we've ever had from a nuclear power
plant in this country - the worst in the world except for Chernobyl -
and no one suffered any damage beyond a very small-scale evacuation and
the economic cost of the plant being partially shut down for a while.
Even the Pilgrim nuclear power plant in Plymouth, MA, which apparently
really _is_ run by blithering idiots, has never actually had a real
problem, just lots of screw-ups that given the right applications of
Murphy's Law _might_ cause problems, under the right circumstances.
After years of their incompetence, the worst you could get them on in
terms of health damages is stress-related illness.:)
BW>how bout overheated
BW> water out there killing a fishing industry, etc etc.
In fact, the effect of the heated waters near a nuclear power plant is
not that straightforward. It discourages some local populations of water
life, but encourages others. It's just a change in the local
environment, not unambiguous damage. There's a plant in Minnesota, for
instance, which has altered the local river- and river-side environment
such that the preferred prey of bald eagles has made a huge comeback,
accompanied by a huge comeback in the bald eagle. I don't know about
you, but _I_ have a hard time calling that "damage".:)
BW>nuclear energy is not
BW> the safest or infalliable energy that there is.
Well, yes, it is, actually, _except_ for the problem of nuclear waste
disposal, which really hasn't been solved. OTOH, even "temporary"
solutions could hold us a long time there, while we set about finding
permanent solutions.
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Msg : 168 of 187
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .ņp 02 .ķā 96 06:09
To : Bianca Wesslak
Subj : NUCLEAR
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
BW>Yeah and what about japan and hiroshima and nagashaki, there still being
BW>effected, how about since all the nuke bombs being exploded, and the
BW>unsafety ofnuke power plants, every one born today has a little bit of
BW>plutonium in there lungs, among other things.
Bianca, nuclear power plants and nuclear bombs are _not_ the same thing,
and they don't have the same effects. They don't even use the same
isotopes of plutonium and uranium, and that makes a _big_ difference.
BW>Nor have I at any point
BW>gone for fossil fuels in this debate, so you can save the fossil argument, I
BW>also don't think that nuclear enerby is such a good idea either.!!
Fossil fuels are the current practical alternative to nuclear power. As
a _practical_ matter, opposing nuclear power across the board, right
now, means more use of fossil fuels. Solar power and wind power are
usable for some purposes, but not everything and not everywhere, until
we make some major technical breakthroughs.
BW> NS> Yes. And knowing the hard realities of physics helps you to make an
BW> NS>
BW>informed decision.
BW> reality is only a perception that humans came up with, it changes to new
BW> concepts that we decide are right. Physics is only theory that a bunch
BW> of people agree upon, not fact, thories. highschool science fact, and
BW> definition between theories, facts, and hypothesis.
*sigh*
Physics is a good deal more than just a set of opinions. People _agree_
on physics-based descriptions of the world because they accurately
predict how things will work. Culture influences what questions science
asks, and to some extent how scientists will _try_ to interpret the
facts they get from experiments, but it still remains a _fact_ that if
you let go of a solid object, it will fall to the ground, every
single time [provided you're standing on Earth, and not in zero-g:)] and
the same isotope of uranium has the same half-life, every single time.
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Msg : 169 of 187
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .åņ 04 .ķā 96 06:34
To : Jackson Raster
Subj : Re: More faves...
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Jackson Raster (1:3637/77) wrote to Nicolai Shapero:
JR>without just cause. I require that you stop this excessive
JR>behavior, and consider reality for a moment before you rant
JR>and& rave. I stopped as soon as was humanly possible.
We protect democracy, we don't practice it. If you "require" that I do what you
want in the way you want it, I will really honestly truly require you to leave
the echo.
Irritating the moderator is NOT the way to retain your access privs to this
conference.
-- Nicolai Shapero, Moderator of the SFFAN echo
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