the computer.
BC> In Florida today adult adolescence and unacceptable workmanship
BC> are not considered valid reasons to terminate an employee. An
BC> individual thus terminated will simply march down to the Florida
BC> Department of Labor and Employment Security and file for
BC> unemployment compensation. He'll get it too, 26 weeks of half
BC> pay vacation with mandatory, of course, but cursory job
BC> interviews. At this time the employers "experience rating" will
BC> go up, as will his premium for mandatory state unemployment
BC> insurance. The state of Florida grants it's residents the
BC> right, not privilege, of gainful employment. Well paid Florida
BC> residents can, if "wrongly" terminated, cause a steep upturn in
BC> an employers unemployment insurance premium.
BK> Having given this some thought I have come to the conclusion that
BK> this portion should also be challenged. I would like to explain
BK> exactly why there is nothing at all unreasonable in that situation,
BK> but I would prefer to do it in an echo where it would be on-topic.
BK> If you don't get the debate echo, is there another you would choose?
The 1996 guidelines for terminating all employees are the same
guidelines used in 1976 for the termination of _MINORS_. This is
progress? I noted the fact that privileges are continually being
legislated into rights. There is however no corresponding
legislation of responsibilities to balance the aforementioned
rights.
In Florida an employees responsibilities are:
Not to be caught stealing from his employer.
Nor to be insubordinate to his employer, or to his employer's
agents or assigns, before another employee or a customer of
said employer.
No mention is made of earning one's pay by doing the job that one
was hired to do. I may be a bit old fashioned but, _THAT'S_A_
CROCK_. Individuals that do not work acceptably by the standards
of their employer, should not be allowed to continue working, nor
should they be paid for the time that they put in.
The subject of this thread is EDUCATION THROUGH FICTION. My
premise in starting this thread was that:
Science Fiction has historically had a higher percentage of
educational content than any other form of fiction and that in
recent years this content has been dropping.
The debate echo is not available locally nor am I particularly
interested in debate. I will continue this thread as long as
there are responses, or such time as it is shut down by the
Moderator. I will note that to date Nicolai has not commented.
Quote from:
"EXPANDED UNIVERSE" (C)opyright 1980 by Robert A. Heinlein
ISBN 0-441-21883-0
--RWC
... "All men are created unequal." --LL
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Msg : 76 of 233
From : Bill Clements 1:18/230 .pä 01 .āé 96 19:30
To : Trishia Dressler
Subj : MISPLACED MESSAGES
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
From the desk of a cynical old man...
Here are the pertainent parts of the headers from the messages
that you accidently posted to SFFAN:
>TD Date: 19 Apr 96 03:28:00 Public
>TD To: EARL CLARK
>TD Subject: FREQUENT FLYER POINTS !!
>TD Date: 19 Apr 96 03:28:00 Public
>TD To: RIC STEINES
>TD Subject: FREQUENT FLYER POINTS !!
>TD Date: 19 Apr 96 03:28:00 Public
>TD To: BILL MOHR
>TD Subject: IT'S NOT JUST YOU
>TD Date: 19 Apr 96 03:28:00 Public
>TD To: BILL MOHR
>TD Subject: PHYSICAL ATTRACTION
--RWC
... "There is only one way to console a widow. But remember the risk." --LL
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Msg : 77 of 233
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .pä 01 .āé 96 19:48
To : Peter Tam
Subj : sci-fi cartoons
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Reports from the Interior indicate that Peter Tam leaked the following to me,
re: sci-fi cartoons
PT>> How 'bout 'The Galaxy Trio'?
TS>> Sounds like the original (Japanese) title of "The Amazing Three".
PT> Nope...Hanna Barbera...played with Birdman.
Wasn't before my time (I think); I must have missed it, or saw it once and
passed it over.
Todd Sullivan
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Msg : 78 of 233
From : The Raven 1:363/309 .pä 01 .āé 96 20:10
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : Kindred: Embrace
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
"This just in from our Moscow Bureau..."
TS> So, which one do you consider yourself?
TS>
TS> Me? Gangrel, of course.
Malks rule, man... Malks forever!
Jack Butler
... "And if I die today I'll be the happy phantom..." -- Tori Amos
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Msg : 79 of 233
From : Lis Carey 1:101/230 .pä 01 .āé 96 05:56
To : Frank Glover
Subj : BOAT OF A MILLION YEARS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FG> I won't even touch this arguement, being only an occasional Highlander
FG>watcher. However, I suggest you might like Poul Anderson's `The Boat of A
FG>Million Years.' It deals with apperant immortals, no magic, just an odd gene
FG>quirk that keeps them physically in their 20's or so, fast (but not magicall
FG>fast) healing, but quite killable. And unable to pass along their trait (whi
FG>destines them to outlive their children, among other things).
FG> A long read, and not truly S-Ffy till the last third (about 1975 on) of t
FG>story. If you liked the original Trek episode `Requieum for Metheusala' (sp?
FG>you may enjoy this even more.
How exactly are you defining "S-Ffy" if you regard a book about people
who are immortal due to a genetic quirk as "not truly S-Ffy" until it
reaches the present day?
Are you saying that "historical novel" covers it for the earlier
portions?
If so, I can't agree with that. Without its sfnal premise, none of the
story in BOAT OF A MILLION YEARS can happen.
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Msg : 80 of 233
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .pä 01 .āé 96 22:46
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : Sound In Space
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Tossing back another tequila, Brion Lienhart told Michael Harper about
Sound In Space...
BL> Because nobody is going to spend 7-10 bucks a head for a forty year
BL> old movie. I bought a copy of Forbidden Planet, but I imagine it's not
BL> way up there in the video best-seller lists.
More so than you'd think; Forbidden Planet has been in constant video
release for twenty years, and Criterion released a restored laserdisc
version a few years ago. The thing that grumps me is that they're
redoing a classic, and there's no need for it. There are stories enough
in sf that have never been touched; why are they doing this?
... "You shall be known as Sir G'kar, The Red Knight." --Arthur
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Msg : 81 of 233
From : Thomas Gladwin 2:500/249.24 .cę 28 .īp 96 14:15
To : Michael Harper
Subj : Physical attraction
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
21-Apr-96 06:53:43, Michael Harper wrote to Trishia Dressler
Subject: Physical attraction
disclaimer: I know this is none of my business
MH> And she doesn't want me. Says I'm too good for her. She can't see in
MH> herself what everyone else who knows her can. And it breaks my heart to
MH> know this...
MH> she'll still ignore me and go off after some other guy. That's the way
MH> my life works...
Ah (always distrust people who go"Ah") but if you expect that, it'll happen.
You'll always let your feelings show through, so this lady will notice you
don't actually expect her to respond to you. And will interpret that as you
not actually wanting her to.
There might be a certain "fear-of-failure" playing behind this, which might
account for little things in your behaviour which give that message to the
lady. Are you trying to hard to be a friend, at the cost of trying to
start a relationship? A good test is, seeing if you make excuses against
actions which could deepen her involvement with you.
Well, that's enough. Please don't send me hate-mail for this ;-) just
sticking my beak in.
de mazzel,
Thomas Gladwin
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Msg : 82 of 233
From : Thomas Gladwin 2:500/249.24 .ōp 30 .īp 96 12:33
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : Chris Elliot's sitcom
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
26-Apr-96 07:25:49, Brion Lienhart wrote to Peter Tam
Subject: Chris Elliot's sitcom
Hi Brion,
BL> -PT>It was called "Get a Life"...actually still have a coupla episodes
BL> on
BL> -PT>tape.
BL> Good lord, why? Out of respect for Bob Elliot and Elanor Donahue, all
BL> copies of
BL> that show should be destroyed.
I must disagree most violently . "Get a life" must have
been the pinnacle of comedy acting... I mean, the intro alone was hilarious!
Of course, I'm biased, I had a teacher at the time who looked *exactly* like
the main character, and oh what fun we had...
Ever seen "Red Dwarf" by the way? It's an English SF/comedy. And it's
brilliant, based loosely on the book. Check out BBC2 sometime in the autumn,
I think it should be back on by then. Damn fool actor got accused of rape
and held up the new episodes, so it's been a while since it was on.
de mazzel,
Thomas Gladwin
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Msg : 83 of 233
From : Thomas Gladwin 2:500/249.24 .ōp 30 .īp 96 12:38
To : Sue Squires
Subj : STAR TREK GENERATIONS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
26-Apr-96 10:56:01, Sue Squires wrote to Bob Klahn
Subject: STAR TREK GENERATIONS
SS> Hmm. I've always wondered about the relative merits of each approach.
SS> At least a cat would catch the vermin out where you had enough room
SS> to maneuvre it into oblivion if it didn't eat it. With venting, I've
Yah, but were are the vermin supposed to come from in the first place?
Surely it would be easier to keep loading bays etc sterile?
de mazzel,
Thomas Gladwin
