they will be.
47. How do you believe Jabba moves?
Total responses: 33
A. Hoversled 64% 21 votes
C. Crawled 36% 12 votes
COMMENTS:
Well, it seems that the 12 voters for choice C are prophets. It is no longer
just a guess, but George Lucas Fact that Hutts crawl, and we will see Jabba
crawling in the re-release of A New Hope. Now that I think about it is makes
more sense that that stupid hoversled idea that Dark Horse started. (Yes I
voted for A). I mean, do little Huttlings get mini-sleds? I would think
a race should be able to move about freely and easily without technology.
I mean, how else did Hutts move before a hoversled? I'm glad Lucas is gonna
make Jabba crawl and not hover, much more realistic and believable. I mean,
why not have all humans going around on jet powered rollerskates?
48. Do you consider Coruscant the "official" capital of the Empire/New
Republic?
Total responses: 33
A. Yes 39% 13 votes
B. No 61% 20 votes
49. How many Super Star Destroyers do you believe there were/are?
Total responses: 33
A. Less than ten 27% 9 votes
B. From ten to fifty 24% 8 votes
C. Hundreds 49% 16 votes
COMMENTS:
No one can say really. I take the line from Jedi said by Han, "Now don't get
jittery kid, there are a lot of Command Ships." I take "Command Ships" to
mean Super Star Destroyers, and to me that says, "Hey, there must be hundreds
if not more." I always thought and still do, that there are hundreds of
thousands of regular Star Destroyers, so hundreds of Super's seems right.
But if you go by the RPG then there are less than 10. But it's up to the
person to decide him/herself.
50. During the time periods of the movies, who would have won in a battle
between Yoda and the Emperor?
Total responses: 33
A. Yoda 33% 11 votes
B. Emperor 67% 22 votes
COMMENTS:
This last and final question turned out about how I thought it would. It's
all a matter of perspective and taste.
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Msg : 71 of 233
From : Brandon Wolgast 1:363/281 .cę 28 .īp 96 23:49
To : All
Subj : Survey: Results!! 7/7
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Well, thats it. Again, thank you to EVERYONE who responded and to who reads
this entire thing. Please to respond to discuss or do whatever with this.
Who knows, maybe next time I can do a 100 question survey...
Brandon
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Msg : 72 of 233
From : Brion Lienhart 1:213/700.2 .îí 29 .īp 96 09:05
To : Michael Harper
Subj : Sound In Space
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On Fri Apr 26, Michael Harper said to Frank Glover:
-MH> If the people in Hollywood had half a clue about the way that real sf
-MH> works, we might get something better than the crap they try to foist
-MH> off on us. I don't know about you, but I've gotten tired of remakes
-MH>of old classics like _Island Of Dr. Moreau_ and _Body Snatchers_.
-MH>They've been working for the last two years on a remake of _Forbidden
-MH>Planet_, for Christ's sake! Why? If it ain't broke, why're they trying to
fix
-MH> it?
Because nobody is going to spend 7-10 bucks a head for a forty year old movie. I
bought a copy of Forbidden Planet, but I imagine it's not way up there in the
video best-seller lists.
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Msg : 73 of 233
From : Scott Royall 1:106/357 .åō 02 .āé 96 17:57
To : Michael Harper
Subj : Voyager Doc?
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Michael,
Wednesday May 01 1996 06:09, Michael Harper wrote to Mark Jones:
MH> Or the Federation has deliberately avoided construction of true
MH> artificial intelligence because something unpleasant happened in
MH> previous attempts. The Enterprise computers are several magnitudes
MH> ahead of anything we can construct, but they're still machines,
MH> helpless without programming and guidance. That's the way I set it up
MH> in my own future history series, and the way George R.R. Martin did in
MH> his Federal Empire/Triple War future history. Lemme give you a quote
MH> from _Tuf Voyaging_...
MH> "It's empty, Nevis. The ship is empty, they're all dead. And the
MH> system is empty, too. I'm alone in here. No other mind is in the
MH> circuit. It's an idiot, Kaj Nevis. The _Ark_ is an idiot giant.
MH> They were afraid, those Earth Imperials. They'd achieved true
MH> Artificial Intelligence. Oh, yes, they had their great AI
MH> warships, their robot fleets, but the AIs had minds of their
MH> own, and there were incidents. It's in the histories - there was
MH> Kandabaer and the action off Lear and the revolt of _Alecto_ and
MH> _Golem_. The seedships were too powerful, they knew that as they
MH> built them. The _Ark_ had duties for two hundred - strategists
MH> and scientists and eco-engineers and crew and officers - and she
MH> could carry more than a thousand soldiers, too, and feed all of
MH> them, and operate at full capacity, and lay waste to _worlds_,
MH> oh yes. And everything worked through the system, Nevis, but
MH> it's a safe system, a big system, a sophisticated system, a
MH> system that can repair itself and defend itself and do a
MH> thousand things at once - if you tell it to. The two hundred
MH> crewmen made it efficient, but you could run it with only one,
MH> Nevis. Not efficiently, no, not at anything near full capacity,
MH> but you could do it. It can't run itself - it's got no mind, no
MH> AI, it waits for orders - but one man can tell it what to do.
MH> One man! I could have done it easily. But Kaj Nevis got
MH> impatient and killed me."
Interesting. For the last 20 years, I've written a set of private stories set
in a somewhat dirtier version of the Trek universe. One of the centerpieces in
this series (and the RPG I've run for six years) is the Nebula class of ships.
(I selected the class name LONG before TNG used it. :)) These ships are
sentient and have no crew per se. They come out of the shipyards with "blank"
personalities that then adapt to complement that of their captains. The ship
that the class is named after has become a bit of a character herself after
fifteen years in service. Yep, the Federation is scared of AIs, but economics
barely overrides in this case. These ships are used as patrol cutters and rapid
response since they do carry a company of marines.
Something I've never understood is why AIs are stereotyped as evil. Mine simply
see themselves as dedicated career soldiers serving their captains and the
Federation. If asked, Nebula herself would say that she is more fortunate than
many humans in that she *knows* her purpose. On the technical side, this is
accomplished through a variation of Asimov's Laws of Robotics. Of course, as
these are military vessels, the laws are a *bit* different. :)
Scott
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Msg : 74 of 233
From : Kevin Ahearn 1:109/104 .åō 02 .āé 96 21:52
To : Bob Klahn
Subj : SPOILEREVIEW: SIC 'EM
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KA> On the other hand, maybe his turn at th throne will come after the
KA> shadow war...and his first act as emporer will be
KA> having Morden's head
KA> stuck on a pole so that the new Empore can greet Morden with a finger
KA> wave...
BK> He's much to decent for that, more like a humane execution.
I dunno...I got the idea from an episode from last season (or was it early THIS
season?) in which Morden asked Vir what his greatest wish was. Vir gave an
answer similar to the idea I mentioned.
--Kevin
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Msg : 75 of 233
From : Bill Clements 1:18/230 .pä 01 .āé 96 19:30
To : Bob Klahn
Subj : EDUCATION THROUGH FIC
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From the desk of a cynical old man...
Posted 28 Apr 96 - BOB KLAHN to BILL CLEMENTS
BK> I'm willing to bet you can't make a valid case for declining
BK> educational standards in the US at all. I've heard this over and over
BK> and never seen the evidence presented. It's always some study
BK> somebody did, but no supporting data provided.
The case was made 16 years ago when Robert A. Heinlein addressed
the Decline of Education in "EXPANDED UNIVERSE". I suggest that
you read 'THE HAPPY DAYS AHEAD' in "EXPANDED UNIVERSE". I'll
quote briefly:
--------------------- BEGIN HEINLEIN QUOTE ----------------------
GLOOM, WOE, AND DISASTER - There are increasing pathological
trends in our culture that show us headed down the chute to self-
destruction. These trends do not require that we be conquered -
wait a bit and we will fall into the lap of whichever power cares
to occupy us. I'll list some of these trends and illustrate
(rather than prove) what I mean. But it would be tediously
depressing to pile up convincing proof - I'm not running for
office. I do have proof, on file right in this room. I started
clipping and filing by categories on trends as early as 1930 and
my "youngest" file was started in 1945.
---------------------- END HEINLEIN QUOTE -----------------------
I sincerely doubt that, upon her husbands death, Virginia
Heinlein destroyed the aforementioned evidence. As she is
renewing copyrights and keeping his work in publication, I am
sure that she can be contacted through her publisher.
BK> I would argue that the entire Star Trek series represents a decline
BK> in educational standards. The lack of valid scientific basis for much
BK> of anything is the basis for my saying this. I'd like to see real
BK> scientific knowledge extrapolated to the future.
BK> B5 and Space above and Beyond probably do not really do any better on
BK> the science, but they are less glitter and gimicks and heavy on plot
BK> and character.
There is not now nor has there ever been any _GOOD_(hard)_
science fiction on television. (That should get me some hate
mail.) See my posted quote from Henry Kuttner for a definition of
good science fiction. I will say nothing defending TNG other than
the fact that I _LIKE_ most of the characters. TNG may be
mindless but it is entertaining. As to B5 and S:AAB, I have yet
to watch a complete episode of either one, usually before the
first commercial break I turn off the T.V. and read or fire up
