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all modern Indians (we don't like being called "Native Americans", Bianca...
if you were born here, as I am assuming, *YOU* are a "Native American") have
wilderness survival skills.  We don't.  (I do, but mainly because of the
military.)  Second, that we would teach a semuhey white girl like you any
of them.

     Tough times, people would start looking out for their own, Bianca.
And besides, it would give the Indians a chance to take over again.  B)

     Jack Butler



... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics!
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
 * Origin: Forethought BBS -=- Orlando, FL -=- 407-679-6561 (1:363/309)

Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 55 of 285
 From : Chris Ogniben                       1:2604/568      .˙ō 26 .íâ 96 11:04
 To   : David Durgee
 Subj : Re: nuclear bs
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

   For your information, that one Nuculear power planet is enough to
wipe out about a 1000 or more people if it explodes.  So, i think it
would be best to keep the number limited for these types of plants to
be running.  Since the danger is still there, no matter if the risks
are there or not.  The point is, when you are dealing with nuclear
power, it's going to be very risky to keep it all in line.  Because if
something bad happens, it's on your head for wanting to have more
plants.  I think right now the amount of running nuclear power plants
that we have in this country is enough.  And i sure won't want to live
near by one.  And all the other plants that we use to provide the
energy that we use everyday, is good enough for the energy needs we
need everyday and night.


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Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 56 of 285
 From : Chris Ogniben                       1:2604/568      .˙ō 26 .íâ 96 11:08
 To   : Channon Lang
 Subj : Re: Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

   The writing for Voyager is not bad.  I have not had one complaint
since the series started.  And you know why?  Because i respect the
entertainment quality that Paramount and their writer's are putting
into each episode of Voyager.  There has been times where i may need to
say something.  But, i don't directly attack the writers.  What is
wrong with you people, is that you espect so much in each and every
episode as you want to see it.  More than to accept what you see and
try to enjoy it.  Without exspecting so much from it, or else you just
don't get the same entertainment qaulity, since you critize to much,
that you just loose out in the entertinament of the episode.


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Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 57 of 285
 From : Brion Lienhart                      1:213/700.2     .˙ō 26 .íâ 96 07:34
 To   : Frank Swarbrick
 Subj : weird tv
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Oh yeah, don't forget Eerie Indiana. I liked to motto of their police dept. "To
Protect and Control."



--- QM v1.31
 * Origin: Ministry of Peace - Carson City, NV (1:213/700.2)

Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 58 of 285
 From : Chris Ogniben                       1:2604/568      .åō 25 .íâ 96 16:31
 To   : Christian Raven
 Subj : Re: Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

  You sir are a scumbag!  And a loser!  And you call yourself a trek
fan, why don't you just go to your toilet and suck the water out, and
then rinse your stinking mouth with soap and water.  Since apparently
you don't know what you were saying there.  Now, i don't know what
the problem is with you.  But, Star Trek Voyager at a scale of all the
trek fans that i know which is about in the hundreds,, and if you can
count that is 100s.  That with your stupid comment that was made for
your reply.  Shows that you are not a trek fan, and if you say you are,
you are a big disgrace to those that read your reply here.  Since, you
sir are a scumbag, why don't you go outside and see what is happening,
since you need to get a life.  And now onto why i am on your stinking
case you loser.

    You attacked Captain Janeway, just because she is a woman, doesn't
mean she is trying to be a man, you scumbucket.  And i for one enjoy
watching star trek voyager, with tons of other true trek fans.  And
perhaps we all do share some words about a woman being a Captain.  But,
we do respect her, and what she does.  And there is nothing wrong with
the crew of voyager.  If you can't live with it, then you are a racial
scumbag.  You needs to be shot on sight.  Since, you are a very low
intellect person that needs to wake up.  And to see out there that
women are in men jobs.  And that tons of people that are different in
race, are all out there, as friends, and working together in this
screwed up world.  And i think you shouldn't be in this conference,
with such a stupid comment that you made, so you better stay out of
this area, before you get more attacks, since you are stupid.


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Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 59 of 285
 From : Chris Ogniben                       1:2604/568      .åō 25 .íâ 96 16:32
 To   : Channon Lang
 Subj : Re: Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

   Hello!!!!!!!  Apparently you seem to be more stupider than i
thought.  Since, i just finished replying to you, to how much of a
scumbag you are for attacking janeway.  And now you make another reply
to a person in here, stating that you like janeway.  Get a stinking
life you stupid idiot.  Since, apparently you don't even see that your
the biggest hypcrypt scumbuck and a bigger loser in this conference.


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Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 60 of 285
 From : Chris Ogniben                       1:2604/568      .åō 25 .íâ 96 16:33
 To   : Shawn Merrow
 Subj : Re: Space: Above & Beyond
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

   Hey i would like to discuss a few episodes upon this subject, since
i seen all the episodes.


--- WM v3.11/93-0947
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Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 61 of 285
 From : Brad Morgan                         1:342/63        .åō 25 .íâ 96 07:11
 To   : David Little
 Subj : Foundation Again
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=>After waking up with a miserable tooth-ache Brad read...<=-
DL->-=< Brad used the Jedi Mind Trick on me! >=-

DL-> CO->BW>Should you read the one(s) before it even
DL-> CO->BW>though they were written after or even though they take place befo
DL-> CO->BW>should you read them after? (kinda like the Star Wars movies, even
DL-> CO->BW>though all six will be out one of these days you should still watc
DL-> CO->BW>parts 4, 5, and 6 first.)
DL-> CO->I've only read the trilogy, so I can't help.  But, for the record, St
DL-> CO->Wars has NINE parts, not six.  (Three trilogies - one before "A New
DL-> CO->Hope", one after "Return of the Jedi")

DL-> BM> Why can't I find the other 6 books? Back when the earth was cooling,
DL-> BM> when the initial Star Wars came out, I remember seeing all 9 books in
DL-> BM> the bookstore, but I haven't been able to find the 1st or 3rd trilogy
DL-> BM> since...I have checked books in print off and on during the years, bu
DL-> BM> still, no books...I'm starting to wonder if I was hallucinating way
DL-> BM> back then...

DL->        That's because the 1st trilogy has not even been written and there
DL->is no 3rd trilogy.

I could have sworn I saw a whole whack of them...I knew then, WAY BACK
WHEN, that there was more to the story, but I must have been doing
better drugs back then than I thought....Thanks for straightening me
out.....SO to say;)

---
 Ā SIG 3.0 [NR] Ā On a clear disk you can seek forever

 * SLMR 2.1a * Sexist??? Me? Some of my best friends are BIMBOS!!!
--- Renegade v10-05 Exp
 * Origin: The Ferret Farm BBs -403-457-3396- (1:342/63)

Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 62 of 285
 From : Brad Morgan                         1:342/63        .åō 25 .íâ 96 07:11
 To   : Christopher O'conor
 Subj : Star Trek Sexism
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
CO->TS> DJ>> That's really quite an idiotic statement.  Giving orders is not a
CO->TS> DJ>> defining characteristic of masculinity.

CO->TS> CR>   really?  then what is?  femininty is just the opposite, and befo
CO->TS> CR> you go plundering into a losing argument, you should scan the
CO->TS> CR> definition in your webster's... submissiveness, not agression, is
CO->TS> CR> of the "defining characteristics" as you so well put it, of the
CO->TS> CR> feminine behavioral pattern.

CO->TS>Barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, eh?  And just what century do yo
CO->TS>you're living in?

Even my wife isn't in the kitchen...

CO->TS>You might like that kind of woman, but most children want everything th
CO->TS>way, too.  I prefer a partner, not a slave.

Amen...

CO->Pardon me, but I happen to believe the two sides here are NOT mutually
CO->exclusive.  My wife was quite good at being submissive, while all the
CO->while manipulating me into doing exactly what she wanted.
CO->I think a quick review of history will show that smart women have

held CO->considerably more power over the course of the centuries using
this CO->method than most feminist sympathizers would lead you to
believe.  It CO->may not be in a woman's nature to *order*, per se, but
they get the job CO->done in *their own way*, just as effectively as any
domineering, CO->"ordering" male.

CO->[And just to keep this on-topic...]  I think Janeway proves this out.  She
CO->a tendency to cajole her subordinates more than any of the other
CO->captains in ST, and specifically "order" a lot less.

CO->Chris

Yep, gotta agree, she only orders people to do stuff if it's something
that person would find distasteful.
---
 Ā SIG 3.0 [NR] Ā If you can't live without me, why aren't you dead?

 * SLMR 2.1a * * <--tribble      | <-- anorexic tribble
--- Renegade v10-05 Exp
 * Origin: The Ferret Farm BBs -403-457-3396- (1:342/63)

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 Msg  : 63 of 285
 From : Brad Morgan                         1:342/63        .˙ō 26 .íâ 96 13:00
 To   : Owen E. Oulton
 Subj : Foundation Again
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
OEO->Must've got hold of some bad acid, man...  :-)  There is no 9-book series
OEO->out.  There are novelisations of the original and its sequels, but they c
OEO->after each movie.  There is a plethora of spin-off novels as well, but mo
OEO->them are less than 5 years old.  Now, what you might have seen was the th
OEO->novelisations, Splinter Of The Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster, the three
OEO->Solo spinoff nevels by Brian Daley, and the three Llando Calrissian spino
OEO->but I'll guarantee you that you didn't see a 9-book series.

Hmmmph!  I'll admit to doing some strange drugs way back then, But I
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