also allow discussions of role playing games (fantasy and otherwise).
After all, RPGers are frequently sffen too! (Just try to keep things
VAGUELY in the sf/fantasy area in your discussions, please?) FANTASY
IS ON TOPIC. FANTASY IS ON TOPIC. FANTASY IS ON TOPIC. And what I
tell you three times is true...
Once ye olde moderator declares a thread "off topic" PLEASE DROP THE
SUBJECT. Take any further comments to NETMAIL. Repeated infractions
of this rule can result in nastygrams from the Moderator...
Personal attacks are to be kept off the echo; but remember that to
attack the idea is NOT the same thing as attacking the holder of that
idea. Keep things "nice" -- no obscene language, no hitting below the
belt.
I'd like people to be a bit more careful with the quoting functions
of their editors. Please do NOT quote entire messages (including the
origin lines). Quote only what is necessary. Show a little bit of
kindness for the sysops who have to pay to transports these messages
all over the world.
Commercial messages (anything that solicits money) are OFF TOPIC. If
you're going to make money on the deal, TAKE IT TO NETMAIL. This is
not a "for sale" echo, nor is it an "investor's hotline" echo.
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Msg : 422 of 423
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 20:34
To : All
Subj : Msg 2 of 3: Rules
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Rules for SFFAN (Message 2 of 3)
No one by the name of Arthur Werner, Sal Devita, or any variants
thereof is permitted on this echo. We do NOT need the Werner-beast,
in ANY of his incarnations, on this echo. In keeping with the spirit
of this rule, Bob Charles is also banned from this echo -- for life.
It is requested that no sysop allow access to or provide a feed for
SFFAN to this individual.
Hanah Deborah is also banned from this echo for an indefinite period,
as is Graeme Smith.
If message traffic is being gated into this conference from any other
network, then each message must show in the origin line, the FidoNet
address of the system that is doing the gating so that netmail may be
properly directed to users posting from the other network. The gating
station MUST BE LISTED IN THE FIDONET NODELIST AS AN APPROVED GATEWAY
STATION!
The first time that anyone breaks one of these or other FidoNet rules
I will try and notify them via netmail. Depending upon the infraction,
I may also post a message in the echo. Repeated infractions may result
in the offender being banned from the echo, either for a limited time or
forever. I do not need variants on the Werner-beast on this echo!
Sysops are held fully accountable for the actions of all users on their
BBSs. Failure by a sysop to properly discipline a user, or failure of
a sysop to suspend access of a user on request of the Moderator may
result in loss of access to this echo. Sysops who violate the rules of
this conference, in spirit or letter, are subject to having their feeds
cut without further warning. I am fully prepared to go "up the line" on
this one, folks, so DO NOT PUSH YOUR LUCK. Any sysop who starts playing
"rules lawyer" (and I think you all understand what I'm talking about)
is subject to having his feed cut without further warning. Feed cuts
will be FOR A MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS, WITH A MANDATORY ONE YEAR
PROBATIONARY PERIOD FOLLOWING RESTORATION OF ACCESS. Any violation of
the rules in spirit or letter during the probationary period makes the
offending sysop subject to permanent loss of feed.
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Msg : 423 of 423
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 20:34
To : All
Subj : Msg 3 of 3: Rules
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Rules for SFFAN (Message 3 of 3)
In the event that I become unable to continue as moderator for SFFAN,
Kay Shapero will serve in my stead unless and until she decides to
step down. This is not a democracy. No one gets to vote on who the
moderator will be.
High order ASCII characters (IBM graphics characters) are not allowed
in messages on this echo. They cause great grief for a lot of systems
and their use is to be avoided.
Special characters or strings as in those used for Postscript, TeX,
and similar page description languages are not to be used in SFFAN. I
would much prefer to see standard BBS practices followed (fake under-
score or all caps for emphasis).
These rules are not to be taken as all inclusive. The moderator re-
serves the right to add rules any time he deems it necessary to main-
tain the character of the echo.
For those readers out there who think that SF fandom is just bit too
strange for words, just zip over to one of the OTHER conferences; it
will only get weirder here.
The following people are on probation for rules violations or other
problems on the echo:
Name End of Probation
============= =================
Dan Gannon (1:105/292) 15 January 1996
The following individuals have received an "invitation to the world":
They are banned from this echo until the date listed after their
names. These are "temporary" suspensions of SFFAN echomail priviledges,
but they are total (no read or write access permitted to SFFAN -- all
sysops carrying this echo are asked to comply)
Name End of Suspension
============= =================
Michael Weir (1:147/61) 5 May 1996
John Giannini (1:119/50) 23 March 1996
The following is a list of STATIONS that for which the feed of SFFAN
has been ordered cut. Such cuts are for a minimum 6 month period,
and have additional probationary periods following restoration
of service:
Name End of Suspension
============= =================
-- Nicolai Shapero, the slightly bemused sysop of StormGate Aerie
Moderator of the SFFAN echo.
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Msg : 1 of 187
From : Harold Groot 1:202/762 .ķá 23 .åę 95 10:00
To : Paul Browning
Subj : Re: SF Comedy
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
PB> Love that Quark!!! Still can't track it down tho... Want all the
PB> episodes to the series... That and Man From Atlantis...
Last time I saw Quark, it was playing on the Comedy Channel, not the
Sci-Fi Channel. Back-to-back with Captain Nice. I taped some of them.
... Heaven doesn't want me and Hell's afraid I'll take over!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]
--- GEcho 1.00
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Msg : 2 of 187
From : Phill Ash 1:275/160 .ķá 23 .åę 95 10:06
To : Darre Luallen
Subj : Brisco Country
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
DL> Well, how about that. First, I learn that TNT has bought the rights
DL> to show reruns of Babylon 5, starting in a few years. Now, I find
DL> out that they will be rerunning _The Adventures of Brisco Country Jr._
DL> in January.
DL> Well, I might start liking Ted Turner yet. :->
Good deal....
Now, if we could keep them from clipping it to hell just to
insert 2 extra commercials... =)
Your pal: PhlAsh
---
ū The Korova Milkbar ū Oh those deep but true, healed country songs
~~~ ReneWave v1.01 [NR]
--- Smile :)
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Msg : 3 of 187
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .pä 20 .åę 95 17:37
To : ROBERT LIDGREN
Subj : X-FILES CHRISTMAS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (19 Dec 95) ROBERT LIDGREN wrote to ALL...
RL> DID ANYONE ELSE SEE THE X-FILES CHRISTMAS STORY?
I did.
RL> I found Mulder to be a little too unsympathetic to Scully's inquiries
RL> abouyt miracles etc. She ALWAYS seems to go along and at least listen
RL> to his view-point. Wasn't he a bit too much of a doubting Thomas
RL> considering all the weird and wonderful cases they have exp[erienced
RL> together?
Well, it wasn't one of their best episodes, but I had no problems with
it.
I look at it as an example of blind spots each character possesses.
Mulder, who is more than willing to reach for explanations on most
topics (Vampires, Scully! Mole People! Aliens!) turns out to be
rather skeptical about religion--at least, about mainstream Christian
religion and mythology.
Scully, on the other hand, who always wants definite proof (and even
then concludes that, yes, it may have been a blood-sucking fiend from
hell--but there has to be a scientific explanation for blood-sucking
fiends from hell...) has a strong streak of religious faith.
What can I say? Early indoctrination is hard to escape. The
young Mulder saw his sister kidnapped by aliens. Of course he
believes in them. And Scully was apparently raised Catholic, and some
of it took.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 4 of 187
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .åō 21 .åę 95 23:46
To : Otto Cordray
Subj : Gibson
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (20 Dec 95) Otto Cordray wrote to Mark Jones...
MJ> Wanna bet? If it's *possible* to do pornographic sim/stim,
MJ> somebody *will* do it. And he'll end up with more money than God.
MJ> Especially if AIDS continues to be a problem. How much safer can
MJ> sex get, after all?
OC>
OC> Safe for whom? Dennis Miller once posed this thought:
Safe for the unemployed steelworker and "Cindy" or "Claudia", of
course. No fear of STDs. No herpes, no syphilis, no AIDS, no
nothing. And no worries about pregnancy, either.
OC> When an unemployed steelworker can sit at home and pay $29.95 to
OC> have "sex" with Cindy Crawford or Claudia Schiffer, crack is going to
OC> seem like bubble gum by comparison.
I would only worry about unemployed steelworkers robbing and
killing people to get their virtual-sex fix if the virtual sex is made
illegal. Because, just like drugs and prostitution, it will never go
away. It'll just go underground and become very expensive.
[As a completely irrelevant and sexist comment in passing: Cindy
or Claudia would okay, I guess. But for my tastes, Joan Chen or
Barbara Carrera are the ones to watch for.]
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 5 of 187
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 12:01
To : Bianca Wesslak
