MJ> get, after all?
Safe for whom? Dennis Miller once posed this thought:
When an unemployed steelworker can sit at home and pay $29.95 to
have "sex" with Cindy Crawford or Claudia Schiffer, crack is going to
seem like bubble gum by comparison.
Otto
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
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Msg : 385 of 423
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .ōp 19 .åę 95 13:08
To : The Raven
Subj : nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Whoa, Cool! The Raven and Chip Griffin are inna cat fight about "nuclear"!
TR> You aren't thinking it through. Put the collectors in orbit.
TR> Several
TR> of them, placed at the right spots, and you never have the problem of
TR> overcast days or the sun not shining.
TR> Have the collectors convert the light into microwaves, beam the
TR> microwaves to large antennas on the surface, then convert the
TR> microwaves to
TR> electricity. Simple. Large initial investment which pays for itself
TR> very quickly.
True enough, Jack, but the problems and the lead time would put it into the 22nd
century the way things go in the present. And until the dependence on fossil
fuels is gone, it won't happen any faster.
We have nuclear *now*. What we need is education and dispelling of
mythical/apocalyptic mis/disinformation. Without an informed populace, the "no
nukes" crowd will have their say, as will those who think solar is science
fiction. They will until oil/gas/coal are prohibitively expensive and in short
supply.
Todd Sullivan
... "Please report all lost or stolen taglines to your Sysop."
Yeah, right.
-*- ASTG 1.9
--- Spot 1.3a Unregistered
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Msg : 386 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .ōp 19 .åę 95 17:10
To : Chris Ogniben
Subj : Space: Above & Beyond
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> While shaving a goat, Chris Ogniben told David Johnston all about In
-=> General...
CO>
CO> I was wondering about when this topic, of discussion with Space
CO> Above and Beyond was going to start.
Consider it started...
CO> How do you people feel of Vansen, wonder what her whole name is.
I won't try to speak for the rest of this bunch, but personally I think
Kristen Cloke, the woman who plays Vansen, is a fairly talented actress,
in addition to being a seriously hot babe. Maybe it's just my
middle-aged hormones talking, but to these old eyes she oozes sex
appeal. I know that sounds sexist as hell, but it's true. Something
about the woman makes me want to grab her and go running to the bushes.
She is living, breathing proof that a woman can be tough, smart, and
sexy all at once.
... The important part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.
--- RA/FD/FMail
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Msg : 387 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .ōp 19 .åę 95 17:10
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : Re: Kubrick vs King?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
While shaving a goat, Todd Sullivan told The Raven all about Kubrick vs
King...
TR> His unreasoning hatred of Stanley Kubrick is just as interesting
TR> as your unreasoning idolization of the man.
TS> Funny thing is, it doesn't show up in _Danse_ _Macabre_. I guess
TS> Steven's managaed to keep his personal feelings out of his writings,
TS> which isn't as easy as it sounds, going by the flak we're seeing.
Steve keeps it under control by not talking about it. Plus, there's been
so damn many gallons of water under the bridge since then that maybe it
doesn't bug him anymore...
And I don't _hate_ Kubrick. I dislike him. If I hated him, I'd be
running over his dog with a steamroller. All I'm doing here is
expressing my dislike for a man that I consider to be an arrogant jerk.
Last I heard, it was still legal to express yourself publicly... and
just as legal to disagree with someone else's opinion. I may not agree
with Dkimmel, but I'll defend with my life his right to his opinion.
... Catch the Blue Wave!
--- RA/FD/FMail
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Msg : 388 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .ōp 19 .åę 95 17:10
To : The Raven
Subj : Re: Q HEADING FOR VOYAGER
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> While shaving a goat, The Raven told Karmin St.Jean all about Q HEADING FOR
-=> VOYAGER...
TR> Close, but no cigar. Stan Putterman (and, for that matter,
TR> George Francisco) is played by Eric Pierpoint. Gerritt Graham plays
TR> Matthew Sikes (not to mention Achilles from "Robot Jox").
That's _Gary_ Graham, Jack...
Gerrit Graham is best remembered as Beef, the gay metalhead rocker from
"Phantom Of The Paradise". More recently he was in an episode of B5 as a
Centauri nobleman; the episode was "Signs And Portents".
... I'm a troubleshooter. I find trouble, and I shoot it.
--- RA/FD/FMail
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Msg : 389 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .ōp 19 .åę 95 17:10
To : Mark Jones
Subj : SeaQuest
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> While shaving a goat, Mark Jones told Shawn Merrow all about Sci-Fi TV...
MJ> When the Seaquest crew did an episode about giant (200') alligators...
MJ> When they discovered Neptune's Pyramid, which was "older than time"
MJ> yet was also supposedly built by the "ancient Greeks" a THOUSAND years
MJ> ago (about the time the Saxons and the Normans were fighting in
MJ> 1066...they not only demonstrated total ignorance of history.
MJ> They demonstrated that they didn't CARE how ignorant they were--nor
MJ> did they care, apparently, whether the audience knew how blatantly
MJ> stupid the characters sounded.
MJ> It's an insult to the viewers. It *deserved* to be cancelled.
What SeaQuest deserved was the return of Rockne O'Bannon as showrunner,
instead of a moron like Patrick Hasburgh who cares nothing for internal
logic and accuracy. Rock would've thrown half of last season's episodes
into the dumper on first reading. I stopped watching the show last
season, and when Scheider said he was leaving, that clinched it. He had
it right when he said that they took a well-written, scientifically
accurate (for the most part) show and turned it into Baywatch.
For my money, the best depiction in sf of undersea operations is still
_The Abyss_.
... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
--- RA/FD/FMail
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Msg : 390 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .ōp 19 .åę 95 17:10
To : Robert Parson
Subj : SEAQUEST 2032
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> While shaving a goat, Robert Parson told Shawn Merrow all about SEAQUEST
-=> 2032...
RP> With the dramatic change in focus and casting each season on Seaquest,
RP> it was hard to keep track of what was going on. It's really too bad.
RP> It was starting to be a watchable show (with the exception of the
RP> Supertrain episode). If I were a network programmer, I probably would
RP> have given it the boot after the first season.
So would I, except I think Amblin had a deal with NBC for a guaranteed
two-season run. First season was very derivative of TNG, but it was
still a good one. The show went downhill fast when O'Bannon pulled out,
and picked up speed when Hasburgh came aboard...
RP> Science Fiction has seldom received big numbers, with the exception of
RP> Star Trek. It remains a programming niche, and probably will for the
RP> forseeable future.
Ah, but look at it from the viewpoint of network execs. The prevalent
attitude has been that sci-fi doesn't work on television. Star Trek
can't be sci-fi, because it does work on television. This one blind spot
is what keeps anything other than Trek from having a decent shot on the
tube; if it's skiffy and it ain't Trek, they think the audience won't go
for it. Anytime an sf/fantasy series fails, they point to it as further
proof of their contention. Look at V. Look at The Flash. Look at
Galactica. On and on.
One bright spot; Alien Nation is returning to Fox. That's the smartest
move they've made since Space: Above And Beyond went into production...
:)
RP> * Silver Xpress V4.3 SW23473
RP> -!- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0162
RP> ! Origin: Jackalope Junction 501-785-5381 Ft Smith AR (1:3822/1)
... "The clown is sometimes the best part of the circus." -- G.B. Shaw
--- RA/FD/FMail
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Msg : 391 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .ōp 19 .åę 95 17:10
To : Myra I Fox
Subj : Re: Tom Holt & PTerry
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> While shaving a goat, Myra I Fox told Tony Trujillo all about Tom Holt &
-=> PTerry...
MIF> I am reading "Who's Afraid of Beowulf?" now. I couldn't find it in the
MIF> fubs and I have it on loan from a friend. (Thanks, Mike!)
You're welcome, dearest. Enjoy...
... "Lo, how the hollow fiend speaks within him!" --Shakespeare
--- RA/FD/FMail
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Msg : 392 of 423
From : Piotr W. Cholewa 2:484/10.6 .ķá 09 .åę 95 14:54
To : Anne Hardcastle
Subj : Gibson
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Anne Hardcastle wrote in a message to Ritchie Funk:
AH> I went to see the movie Johnny Mnemonic, when we went there
AH> were only two other people in the theatre!! It was pretty
AH> good if you are a fan of his stuff and do alot of filling in
AH> the holes. The visual representation of the world he
AH> describes in the novels is for me very nice. The plot of
AH> the entire story is a bit goofy and our pal Mr. Wooden Actor
AH> Keanu is not the best. Some of it I liked alot, and some
AH> was bad (I guess that's true with all movies, huh?). Check
AH> it out, if you like WG at all it is worth $3 to rent the
AH> video. --- CNet/3
I've seen JM two weeks ago and it seemed good enough. Reeves is not the best
possible, but I liked the movie nonetheless. True, I've read the story behind
and I knew the background. Filling holes was necessary. I'm interested in
opinions of people not knowing the story. Are there any?
PWC
--- GEcho 1.00
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Msg : 393 of 423
