MJ> with computer and headset. When you need the kit, you slip on the
MJ> headset and turn on the power. Presto! You know how to *use* all
MJ> that keen equipment now!
However, experiential testing would be required to prove that some special
dexterity or visual acuity isn't really necessary to do surgery on someone who
might have some unusual medical condition to deal with. I knew a guy who was
nearly 400 pounds in junior high. He was stabbed about 200 times. Most of the
probloem in operating on him was determining how much fatty tissue there
actually was between the surgeon and the serious parts of the wound.
Took 14 hours to finish that emergency surgery. He was about 200 pounds lighter.
In an emergency, would *you* have the endurance for a field medical stimkit's
directions to remove several hundred pounds of adipose tissue? Would *both* you
anf the patient survive?
Just curious about your feedback.
Lawrence E Dunlap
(1:106/2927)
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Msg : 413 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 13:44
To : Frank Glover
Subj : Re: Kubrick
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> While shaving a goat, Frank Glover told Michael Harper all about Kubrick...
FG> I was rather disappointed that the sets and all were destroyed
FG> (perhaps keeping the blueprints around would've been wise, though),
FG> but I can see his point. The effects and saucer design from Forbidden
FG> Planet were recycled through a couple of Twilight Zone episodes
FG> (though they at least did them justice), and even a TV Batman
FG> episode....
Yeah, and Robby ended up in at least one more movie, made an appearance
on LIS, and finally got stuck in the lobby of the MGM Grand in Vegas,
where his housing stands to this day...
I'm wondering if the remake of FP will use Robby II or another 'bot. I'd
like to see him in the new version...
I remember reading a book on the making of 2010 where Rich Edlund says
that their best tool for recreating the Discovery was a laserdisc print
of 2001. That's what I call a tribute to one's work...
... "Whatever happened to American bravery?" --Capt. Tanya Kirbuk
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Msg : 414 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 13:44
To : Chris Cobb
Subj : Re: Akira
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, Chris Cobb told All all about Akira...
CC> Are there any Akira fans out there? Just wondering where I could
CC> pick up some merchandise through mail order or something.
Dial 1-800-383-0727. That's Intergalactic Trading in Longwood, FL.
They'll have almost anything you want...
... "No being can be truly sentient without laughter." Delenn
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Msg : 415 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 13:44
To : Nancy Crockett
Subj : Highlander
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Over coffee and beignets, Nancy Crockett told Tommy Kellerman all about
-=> Highlander...
NC> Great quote! Did you like Clancy Brown in Earth 2? Quite different
NC> from the Kurgan in Highlander, huh?
Actually, one of my favorite roles for Clancy was that of Rawhide,
Buckaroo Banzai's right-hand man, in _Buckaroo Banzai_... I watched E2
mostly for him, on those odd occasions when I watched it at all.
... "Bud, did you know your hand is blue?" --Lew Finler, "The Abyss"
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Msg : 416 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .åō 21 .åę 95 08:11
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : Re: KUBRICK COMMENTS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> While shaving a goat, Brion Lienhart told The Raven all about KUBRICK
-=> COMMENTS...
-TR> Someone said "Kubrick's a great director, but as a person he
-TR>sucks" and Dkimmel had an apoplectic fit.
BL> No, someone said that "because Kubrick is a jerk, I hate his films",
BL> and Dkimmel had a fit.
Actually, I think it was my contention that Kubrick had made some
mediocre movies that really set him off...
Really, Jack's got it right. Kubrick is a great director, when he hits
the mark. He hits the mark a lot. It's my personal contention that he's
a despicable excuse for a human being. This doesn't make him any less
talented as a director. Anyone who can pull together the talent that he
did for 2001 has earned my respect for his skills.
I just prefer my movies to have a bit more of a human touch. This is why
I like Pete Hyams' 2010 more than 2001. The characters are more
accessible. But without Kubrick and 2001, there wouldn't have been a
2010.
Can we end this mahooha now?
... "Anatomically impossible, Mr. Garibaldi, but you're welcome to try."
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Msg : 417 of 423
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .åō 21 .åę 95 08:11
To : Darre LuAllen
Subj : Quark
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> While shaving a goat, Darre LuAllen told Otto Cordray all about SF
-=> Comedy...
DL> I used to love that show, but no one would acknowledge its existence,
DL> until now. I just thought that I had been hallucinating. Now I
DL> guess it's just a case of "Disco Deprogramming." Didn't the show
DL> have a set of twins? I was five years younger than you when I saw
DL> this show, so my memory is not very trustworthy.
Yep. Trish and Cybil Barnstable, former Doublemint Gum Twins. A bit too
slim for my liking, but still damn cute. God knows what happened to them
after the series ended...
Tim Thomerson and Richard Bejamin have both gone on to other, if not
necessarily better, things...
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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Msg : 418 of 423
From : Kay Shapero 1:102/524 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 09:39
To : All on off topic subject
Subj : nuclear BS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Warning folks - Net 102 is once again got its feed back up for SFFAN, and the
moderator is back. I'd suggest you drop the off topic nuclear argument
quick.... :->
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Msg : 419 of 423
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 20:28
To : Bianca Wesslak
Subj : Re: nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Bianca Wesslak (1:132/152) wrote to David Durgee:
BW> Your looking at the present and not the future. Radiation half
BW>life takes
BW> centuries and maybe eons to become stable.
I would strongly suggest that you study a bit of physics. Do you even have the
vaguest idea of what the half-life of a radioactive isotope IS? The really
nasty radioactive isotopes have short half-lives. The isotopes with extremely
long half-lives are not comparitively speaking dangerous. Funny about that...
BW>Uranium hurts and
BW>kills more
BW> people over time than does black lung.
Approximately 10,000 people die each year due to our current use of fossil fuels
for power and for "getting around" in our nice little IC engine vehicles.
Source of this number? An NSF study some ten years ago and more that my older
brother worked on. The study did not include the lives lost for mining or
transporting fossil fuels, by the by. And take a look at how long it takes for
a restricted ecosystem to recover from an oil spill, by the by...
BW>... You can twist perceptions, reality won't budge.
Yes. And knowing the hard realities of physics helps you to make an informed
decision.
-- Nicolai Shapero, the Mad Russian Sysop of StormGate Aerie
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Msg : 420 of 423
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 20:34
To : All
Subj : Msg 0 of 3: Rules
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
What follows is an abbreviated version of the rules for SFFAN:
Discussions of SF Fandom, Trek, Media, Who, Anime, and any literary
SF topic are "in bounds". Related technical discussions are also
allowed, but if they go too far afield, ye moderator reserves the
right to shut down the topic at any time without further warning.
Fantasy, by the by, is on topic. Keep the comments clean and above
the belt -- personal attacks are unacceptable (remember though, that
to attack an idea is NOT the same as attacking the holder of that
idea).
Commercial messages (anything that solicits money) are OFF TOPIC.
The moderator reserves the right to add new rules as the situation
demands.
Violators of rules may be warned in netmail, will be warned in the
echo, and are subject to suspension of SFFAN echomail priviledges
if they refuse to comply with the echo rules. Sysops who refuse to
police their users (or themselves) on this echo are subject to
having their feeds cut without warning -- yes, I do hold sysops to
a higher standard. A list of users and sysops on probation and
suspension is included in the detailed rules, which are posted
at roughly one month intervals.
The word of the moderator is the word of god. Once the edict is
issued, please take any further comments and/or discussions to netmail.
This is not a democracy. In the event of my disappearance of early
demise, my wife Kay Shapero will take my place. If both of us
disappear without having time to appoint an heir to the echo, you
will likely have to fight it out with the FidoNet bureaucracy...
-- Nicolai Shapero, Moderator of SFFAN
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Msg : 421 of 423
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .˙ō 22 .åę 95 20:34
To : All
Subj : Msg 1 of 3: Rules
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Rules for SFFAN (Message 1 of 3)
This humble (?) individual, also known as the moderator of the SFFAN
echo, intends that this echo be used for discussions of any subject
related to SF fandom. So: Trek, Who, Anime are all acceptable topics.
Of course, any literary sf topic is obviously "in bounds". Related
technical discussions are also allowable, but try not to go off into
"my computer is better than your computer" arguments. And, oh yes, I
