too. :->
This event is also notable for being one of the few times in history that a
Shaltuan was actually REAL useful. OK - a bit of history. Shaltuans are an
interesting bunch. They're sorta reptilian, with a strong honor code that
strikes the rest of the universe as a mite dippy, but suits them just fine.
Shaltuans are shorter lived than humans, and there are those who feel that they
probably would be even if they were physically capable of lasting as long, since
they've a tendancy to get into trouble both from the aforementioned honor code,
and because a lot of them like to be pilots. Shaltuan pilots take off and fly
just fine, the problem generally comes in when they land. Mind you, this was
not intentional, it's just that the Dice Know - it seemed like every time a
Shaltuan pilot set out to land something, regardless of who was playing him, the
ship took damage, or actually crashed. The general assumption this bit of
gamelore ultimately led to was that all Shaltuans really, deep down, want to be
kamikaze pilots. Seems about right to me.
Well, Shaltuans are Very Loyal to their commanders. And for her sins, Tuu Ira
Isan had one assigned to the AVS Firewing back before she got tapped by
Paratemporal. So suddenly she had this half-pint lizard samurai at her heels
practically everywhere she went, usually trying to do something that would Not
be a good idea. Like carrying a flag with the pack Tuu symbol on it whilst
following her (something that would have been politically far TOO interesting).
Or.. but I digress. Suffice it to say that he proved a marvelous source of
diplomacy practice all the times it was necessary to turn him away from some bit
of honorable idiocy without his deciding on suicide. At least he never landed
the Firewing - T'Isan assigned him his own personal in-system fighter and gave
him permission to paint his personal symbol on it which kept him out of trouble
for awhile anyway.
Well, when T'Isan walked down that corridor and was ambushed out of the blue by
the guys with the treason charge, the ONLY reason she managed to keep her temper
long enough to realize something weird was up was the fact that that Shaltuan
was RIGHT behind her, and if she'd said one word of anger or resistance, he
would have CERTAINLY come charging to the rescue and got himself killed. So you
see, there's a use for everything... :->
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Msg : 52 of 57
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .˙ō 14 .ūë 95 18:26
To : Frank Eva
Subj : Short B5 Season
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (13 Jul 95) Frank Eva wrote to Kay Shapero...
FE> KS>Adding the 4 brings the total to 22, same as the first season.
FE>
FE> 22 is still less than other series. If JMS' 5 year story arc is
FE> based on 22 eps/season, that's like admitting it will be more
FE> like a 4 year story arc. Consider that the X-Files gave its fans
FE> 26 eps/season; 4 eps/season times 5 seasons is almost enough to
FE> do another "year" of the story!
It's my understanding that 22 episodes constitutes a standard season
for many programs. Yes, X-Files may have done 26--but so what? Many
other shows (Sliders, VR5 and a lot non-SF programs) did a lot *less*
than 22 episodes this season.
Sure, I'd like to have more new B5 episodes every season--but given
the short shrift a lot of other series got, I'm content with a "mere"
twenty-two.
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Msg : 53 of 57
From : Myra I Fox 1:123/10 .˙ō 14 .ūë 95 20:26
To : Tony Trujillo
Subj : Red Dwarf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
TT> Thanks for the info! I hope that something solid does come
TT> out of this. I've been aching for new RD for too long! :^)
If I come across any newer info I'll pass it along to you.
I scan through the WHO echo regularly. I'm not only a
Doctor Who and Red Dwarf fan, but I kinda like that Steve
Quarrella guy too . I also got to meet a fan who lives
here in Memphis by "meeting" him on the WHO echo. He loaned
me about six tapes so I could get introduced to William
Hartnell, Patrick Troughton and see some more of Jon
Pertwee.
He has on one of the tapes a short sort of documentary
called RESISTANCE IS USELESS. It has lots of short clips
from the episodes.
TT> If only we could get that bastard Norman to move to
TT> England! :^)
Where does he live ?
TT> I'd really love to see him back in the roll as Holly...I
TT> like Hattie but she just doesn't have the dead pan delivery
TT> that Norman did.
I have heard that she is a really good stand up comic, maybe
the writers just didn't take into account *her* special
talents that would have made the role into something that
was funnier. Maybe I'm wrong, but that is just a feeling I
had about her in the part of Holly.
... TroughtonDOS 2.0: "When I say RUN, RUN!"
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Msg : 54 of 57
From : Judy Hayes 1:154/40 .cę 16 .ūë 95 16:27
To : Starwolf
Subj : Re: Destructed plots
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> As SWAN finally returned to the 'Net she heard this:
St> He'd better get used to it. Asimov, who's got a higher grounding in
St> science, got nailed by obsolete plot devices more often than niven
JH> That's only to be expected since Asimov wrote 10 times
JH> more than......anyone.
St> But he's also got more science training than almost anyone else, too.
St> So, he ought to have even less of 'miss' record than others, in spite
St> of a large body of work. I think it isn't so much that he wrote more,
St> but that he wrote for such a long time. Many accepted tenets had the
St> chance to get knocked down.
This is also true. The more and longer you write the better chance that you
will be proved wrong in something.
--SWAN
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Msg : 55 of 57
From : Dan Martin 1:3666/501 .cę 16 .ūë 95 10:36
To : Sean Caszatt
Subj : Re: Red Dwarf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
SC>-> I've never seen the American pilot, so I can't really make an
>-> judgement there. Although the idea of Terry Farrel as the Cat does so
>-> intriguing. But...if they had done an American version of the series,
>-> the original actors...and Grant and Naylor as series writers, it woul
>-> been something to see. In my opinion it would've rivalled Trek in syn
>-> But...it was not to be...unfortunately. (At the very least we might h
>-> 26 episodes per season instead of a measely 6. Granted those 6 are be
>-> most American offerings...and possibly if there were more, they would
>-> funny per minute of airtime, (spreading the humor throughout the epis
>-> were). Oh well.
SC>I haven't seen the pilot either, but as is the case with most things
>that were originally done in other countries and then "Americanized"
>(ie. brought down to the lowest common denominator), I'm sure it would
>have sucked.
SC>With the original cast and writers, it may have been better...but as
>you said they'd have to spread the laughs over more episode. I think
>we're better off with what we have now!
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I have the sixth season and the american pilot, along with the smeg-ups
and tongue tied video. I can send copies for a nominal cost...
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Msg : 56 of 57
From : Phill Ash 1:275/160 .cę 16 .ūë 95 08:47
To : Starwolf
Subj : Voyage movie
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.1+
Phill Ash nasally exhaled his coffee upon hearing this:
>Even the first season, when the plots were reasonably good, had the
>crew crawling through the air ducts from time to time.
Yeah, but even a modern "Boomer" with a 50 (or so) foot
diameter, wouldn't have "man-sized" air vents...
Of course "SeaView" wasn't a real sub, just a CVN with a
displacement problem
Your pal: PhlAsh
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Msg : 57 of 57
From : Gamin Davis 1:202/1313 .ķá 15 .ūë 95 22:35
To : Ken Mayes
Subj : Red Dwarf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
When Ken Mayes started blathering on about Red Dwarf, I had to put in my 2 cent
KM> ...and urine should only be green if you're Mister Spock.
Nitpick: If you're Spock and you have green urine, you have
*bloody* urine and should go see Dr. McCoy ASAP! Your urine should NOT
be the same color as your blood. (I always thought this was a stupid
tagline...)
Gamin Davis
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Msg : 1 of 100
From : Judy Hayes 1:154/40 .pä 25 .ęō 95 07:19
To : William Onufryk
Subj : Re: Mercedes lackey and h
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->Quoshara reminising about being SWAN, heard William say:
JM> PL> Two more due out soon - _Triangle Park_ and _Arcanna 101_
JM> Any more info ; when ; what about etc..
JM> Anything you can tell my about new books of her etc ...
WO> It may be a while, the last I heard was that her Tregarde books have
WO> the weakest sales of any of her books and Tor is not rushing to put
WO> any more out at the moment. The latest list I saw of her future
WO> releases doesn't have either of the books above listed.
That's too bad. They are *my* favorites of all her works and the ones that
encouraged me to read more of her (non-collaborative) works.
--Quoshara
... One way to have a clean mind is to change it frequently.
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Msg : 2 of 100
From : Scott Royall 1:106/357 .pä 25 .ęō 95 13:01
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Saab: The Invitros
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-=> Quoting Nicolai Shapero to Scott Royall <=-
NS> From last night's episode, we know that our "tank on the team" has
NS> only been out of the bottle for six years, so there's likely a forced
