TR>
Well...just be that way, then! See if I care!
I just won't tell you about my PULP FICTION/HIGHLANDER story.
--- PPoint 1.78
* Origin: Folcroft Sanitarium (hsmith@cure.com) (1:105/302.47)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 23 of 100
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .pä 25 .ęō 95 18:42
To : Owen E. Oulton
Subj : Re: Questions, but are they rhetorical?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FROM: 2:463/2
TYPE: Unknown area
AREA:SFFAN
OE> Stories like Star Trek or Babylon 5 would be impossible. Travel to
OE> the nearest star system, a mere 4.3 light years off, would take
OE> decades, perhaps generations.
Quite true. Indeed, the crew of the USS Voyager, if they could get close
enough to lightspeed in normal space could get home in perhaps a few months of
ship's time, but there's that matter of being 27,000 (I think) years out of
date....
In `The Forever War,' it was also expected that ships, unable to use the
stargates that got them out there, would come straggling back, over
thousands of years, likewise at relativistic speeds.
If it can be kept operating this long of course, Voyager has the option of a
70 year trip home at warp speeds. but at least about the same time will have
passed at home, too. Recall also when Q sent the Enterprise-D to the first
encounter with the Borg, they were two years out of Federation space at maximum
warp. And in TOS, even with the Kelvan-augmented warp drives, it was to be a 300
year voyage tothe Andromeda galaxy (2.2 millionlight-years)
Sometimes you can't go *enough* faster than light....
In one of Niven's Known Space stories, a character makes a passing reference
to someone who went off to `the edge of the universe' in a barely sublight
ramship that *also* had hyperdrive. (Standard hyperdrive, not the level II type
seen in `At The Core') Seems that as far as ship time was concerned, he was
better off flying at relativistic speeds, than through hyperspace to travel
10-odd billion light-years.
And, of course, this guy had no expectation of coming back.....
Frank
--- QuickBBS 2.80 GoldBase (Zeta-1)
* Origin: The Matrix Data Bank BBS, Rochester, Ny (1:2613/477)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 24 of 100
From : Chris Carter 1:105/290.23 .åō 26 .ęō 95 07:24
To : Jeff Hancock
Subj : The Long Twilight Sp 1/2 [1]
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FROM: 2:463/2
TYPE: Unknown area
AREA:SFFAN
Spoilers below. Cool spoilerguard removed to save bandwidth. 25
carriage returns inserted.
On (23 Oct 95) Jeff Hancock wrote to All...
JH> A rather interesting pattern of city lights on the surface of
JH> Centauri Prime.
You'll have to fill me in on this one, as I didn't notice a pattern.
JH> What is with that funky music and Sheridan in the shower?
More of the magic of Christopher Franke, I'd imagine. Don't you
listen to music when you're showering?
JH> I thought Draal was a bit of a pompous, preachy fellow during
JH> Voice in the Wilderness, but it is as nothing as compared with
JH> his younger self. The content didn't seem excessively
JH> self-promoting, but otherwise his speaking style seems typical
JH> of someone rather full of himself.
Think of Draal as a professor at a major university. These sorts of
folks do often times get a bit full of themselves, and speak
accordingly. I thought the obviously preplanned speech, intercut
with more conversational phrases was brilliant and funny.
JH> And the way Londo and Refa's faces are partially shadowed by
^^^^^^^^
JH> the poor lighting during the argument.... laying it on a bit
JH> thick perhaps? ;)
Think about it. ;~)
JH> It's mildly interesting that this time, the Epsilon 3
JH> installation that is visited, and where Draal is kept, is only
JH> three miles beneath the surface. I seem to remember that it
JH> was five miles in VitW.
Assuming I can remember, I'll attempt to verify this.
JH> I thought the Narn should have had more fighters, though.
There may have been more fighters, but most of the combat was viewed
on the scale of capital ships. Fighters were lost against the
background most of the time.
JH> Okay, did anyone else not care for the intercuts of G'Kar
JH> praying? I dunno, I just never cared for having my space
JH> battles constantly interrupted, just a couple of times would
JH> have gotten the point across.
I think this was supposed to make the battle more personal, as well
as reflect G'Kar's foreboding about it. I didn't have a problem
with it.
JH> Does anyone get the impression G'Kar knows what's happening to
JH> the Narn fleet as he's praying?
I don't think that G'Kar necessarily knows, but his knowledge of the
Shadows, and his assumptions about their involvement with the
Centauri explain his behavior, I think.
JH> Another odd bit is that the double-ship that had a leg blown
JH> off seems almost adrift in space as the other double-ship
JH> merges with it. This is another argument for organic
JH> technology on the part of the Shadows, and against it being
JH> used as well, any wounds can affect the whole creature
One might think that even the relatively small amount of damage done
to the Shadow cruiser was enough to incapacitate it, because it was
in *pain*.
More to come in other messages...
Chris - carter@teleport.com
... Warning! This tagline contains Visdormativa!
--- PPoint 1.98
* Origin: Grid Epsilon Coords. 105x290x23 (1:105/290.23)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 25 of 100
From : Chris Carter 1:105/290.23 .åō 26 .ęō 95 07:36
To : Jeff Hancock
Subj : The Long Twilight Sp 2/2
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FROM: 2:463/2
TYPE: Unknown area
AREA:SFFAN
As with the previous message, the spoiler graphic has been removed
and replaced by 25 carriage returns.
On (23 Oct 95) Jeff Hancock wrote to All...
JH> The VORLON government filed protests against the Centauri as
JH> well?
Remember, the Vorlons still have to give the impression that they're
'just like everybody else,' rather than gadding about saying, "Hi.
We're the Ancient Ones, and we're here to help you kick some Shadow
ass." Filing protests, and doing nothing to back them up, makes the
Vorlons look just as ridiculous as everyone else in the Council
chambers.
Chris - carter@teleport.com
... "Jim Beam" me up, Scotchy! There's no more booze on this planet.
--- PPoint 1.98
* Origin: Grid Epsilon Coords. 105x290x23 (1:105/290.23)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 26 of 100
From : Michael Harper 1:123/10 .pä 25 .ęō 95 11:09
To : Beverley Cote
Subj : Oook!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FROM: 2:463/2
TYPE: Unknown area
AREA:SFFAN
Yeah, but it's all those odd little references to Buddy Holly and Elvis and so
on that had me rolling... :)
Now I've gotta go find a copy of the new one, "Lords And Ladies". The thing in
the advert says mething about a football team that gets the crap beat out of
them by a gang of elves.
--- RA/FD/FMail
* Origin: The Electric Fox - Memphis,TN, U.S.A. 1-901-327-1008 (1:123/10)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 27 of 100
From : David Little 1:106/7315 .pä 25 .ęō 95 09:23
To : Darren Lovatt
Subj : Red Dwarf / Time travel
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FROM: 2:463/2
TYPE: Unknown area
AREA:SFFAN
-=<( Darren Lovatt used the Jedi Mind Trick on me! )>=-
DL> In Red Dwarf, time travel is used alot and I was wondering if chatting
DL> about weather or not it was possible or other views was allowed ! If
DL> so I'm here !
No more than Star Trek has used time travel. I was upset when Lister
didn't go ack and marry Kachanski!
-=The DoLittle 8-)=-
... "All of this generosity has made me tired!" -- The Cat
--- FreeMail & Blue Wave/TAG v2.20
* Origin: The Wizard's Realm ** (713) 946-7315 ** (1:106/7315)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 28 of 100
From : David Johnston 1:342/14 .åō 26 .ęō 95 00:06
To : Ml Sands
Subj : Questions, but are they rhetorical?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FROM: 2:463/2
TYPE: Unknown area
AREA:SFFAN
-> 1 ... A twenty year travel-time would be on the order
-> (generally) of the journey of Marco Polo. While long, it
Marco Polo had places to stop on the way, instead of being locked in a
metal box for 20 years with the same companions.
-> 2 ... You seem to be assuming that what is fast, is easy.
-> However, the majority of storylines do hold that
-> is a very energy intensive buisiness. Tunneling through the
Not by comparison with STL travel.
--- PCBoard (R) v15.21/100
* Origin: Freddy's Place - Edm. AB - 28.8K (403) 456-4241 (1:342/14)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 29 of 100
From : David Johnston 1:342/14 .åō 26 .ęō 95 00:26
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Re: Questions, But Are T
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FROM: 2:463/2
TYPE: Unknown area
AREA:SFFAN
-> Nope. Because the hero will be on board a ship that will be pushing
-> the speed of light within a year, and relativistic effects (time
-> dilation) will get him to the stars in decent ship-time.
Of course, it would be a great mystery where he was getting his
unlimited reaction mass, Tau Prime notwithstanding.
--- PCBoard (R) v15.21/100
* Origin: Freddy's Place - Edm. AB - 28.8K (403) 456-4241 (1:342/14)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 30 of 100
From : Marc Zingarelli 1:226/110 .åō 26 .ęō 95 18:34
To : The Raven
Subj : Highlander: New Season
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FROM: 2:463/2
TYPE: Unknown area
AREA:SFFAN
.TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 92-0004
The Raven was overheard talking to Mark Jones,
about Highlander:, in "Joe's Place" and said:
TR> Yep. Something I we will see at least one more time in the series...
TR>mainly because I know that something major is going to happen, and I'm not
TR>going to tell you what it is. Nyah nyah nyah.
I hate it when you do this!!!!! You're such a tease Jack.
TR>... "Correction. I'm the oldest *known* Immortal." -- Methos
This tagline brings up a couple what ifs on its own.
Later
---
LT MARC ZINGARELLI
Circleville Fire Department
Local 1232
Internet: marc.zingarelli@tcr.com
* OLX 1.52 * "All you have to do is live long enough."
--- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12
* Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 (1:226/110.0)
Ä [16] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
Msg : 31 of 100
From : Wes Yahola 1:123/569 .˙ō 27 .ęō 95 05:59
