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Msg : 7 of 57
From : Tony Trujillo 1:280/9 .óį 15 .žė 95 01:28
To : Kay Shapero
Subj : Re: Sliders Continuity
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KS>> the very last scene is a hoot (and inspired a filk I'm currently
KS>> finishing up. :->)
TT>>You mean the "spaced" teddy bear? :^)
KS> Ayep! There are some other funny bits, notably when Ivanova visits the
KS> store and the "nobody here is quite what he seems" aspect is even more
KS> blatant than usual. :->
I've seen posts about this episode (alien and human masks)
in the echo that have really made me ROFL. I expect nothing
less from Peter David. I would sure like to read some of his
non-Trek stuff like HOWLING MAD. Humm...maybe I should check
out the library. It's a crazy idea but it JUST MIGHT WORK!
:^)
TT>>Really? I didn't know...hummm...could this be in preparation
TT>>for new episodes...do we dare hope? :^)
KS> Fingers, toes, eyes crossed... :->
I'd cross my (_add favorite body parts here_) if it would help! :^)
KS> Ever see the episode where Riker temporarily joins a Klingon ship
Did I? I thought it was one of the top five best ST:TNG
episodes during the run of the series.
KS> introduced to gakh? I'll say this, he's good at contact xenology!
KS> Kirk, otoh, strikes me as being more good at contact *sports*... :->
Uhhh...we are talking about xenology and sports, aren't we?
;^)
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Msg : 8 of 57
From : Brian Henderson 1:207/804 .īķ 10 .žė 95 01:07
To : John Kahane
Subj : B5 Comic Down
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JK> Yep, this pretty much sums up what I understand now to be the case.
JK> Frankly, it amazes me that they expected the comic to appeal to the
JK> die-hard fans of the series, given the shoddy art that has been
JK> presented throughout. While it has gotten better with recent issues,
JK> it's obviously way too late.
As a matter of fact, the B5 comic has gotten a reprieve and will be
around until at least issue 24, giving us more than a year of issues for
DC to increase sales.
I guess all those nasty phone calls to DC do some good after all. ;)
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Msg : 9 of 57
From : Brian Henderson 1:207/804 .īķ 10 .žė 95 01:09
To : Jack Butler
Subj : B5 Renewed!
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JB> I've been much too soft on you, Brian. Your beginning to fall back
JB> into that old "Ignore everyone else's points since I am always
JB> right" mode you tend to fall into.
You know, I'd almost forgotten what kind of self-righteous nonsense you
post, Jack.
JB> Oh. We can assume then that all money generated by these licenses
JB> is being devoted to some charitable organization? And that neither
JB> Babylonian Productions and Straczynski himself aren't seeing dime
JB> one of it.
I'd much rather take the word of JMS, who is directly involved than you,
who doesn't have clue one, as is immediately obvious from your posts.
JB> Trek is irrelevant to the issue, Brian, and always has been. What
JB> Paramount is doing with Trek has no bearing, will have no bearing,
JB> and never has any bearing on the merchandising of Babylon 5. And
JB> since this is true, you should stop your pitiful attempts to shift
JB> the subject away from the truth.
No, Trek *IS* relevant since a lot of JMS's views are a direct
consequence of how Paramount has handled Trek. In fact, it seems to me
that I've posted articles from him on exactly this topic, agreeing with
me.
But I doubt you would ever bother stooping to the truth.
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Msg : 10 of 57
From : Brian Henderson 1:207/804 .īķ 10 .žė 95 01:13
To : Frank Eva
Subj : B5 Reruns???
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FE> Thanks, but I'll take what I read in TV Guide over the crazed rumors
FE> I see posted to the computer networks, any day!
You are, of course, free to do as you wish.
FE> This sounds like just more gobbledygook, like ECAREY was posting...
No, it is the truth. The third season of B5 starts on November 1, 1995
(I don't remember if it is officially the week of October 25 or November
5, since the 1st falls on a Wednesday). By definition, anything that is
shown prior to this week falls in *THE SECOND SEASON* which is exactly
when the last four episodes are being shown. You might not like the
fact that they are being held off and neither do I, but while we're
being pissed off, we might as well be accurate about it.
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sander.
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Msg : 11 of 57
From : Brian Henderson 1:207/804 .īķ 10 .žė 95 02:01
To : Dkimmel
Subj : B5 Reruns???
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DD> Wrong again, Frank. The new season of B5 starts in November, so
DD> they are not showing the last four episodes "next season."
DD> Apparently you know very little about the television industry. Why
DD> not listen and learn?
Nah... it's much more fun to pretend you know what you're talking about.
For the *FEW* of us who have worked in television in one capacity or
another, we don't have to worry about net rumors, we know the truth.
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Warner, A!
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Msg : 12 of 57
From : Brian Henderson 1:207/804 .īķ 10 .žė 95 01:17
To : Jack Butler
Subj : B5 Ripoff: Ds9
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JB> Personally, Straczynski is so full of it he squeaks. I want to know
JB> his sources; otherwise, he is just being a profit-minded producer
JB> trying to convince people that his biggest (and much more
JB> successful) competitor isn't as great as people think.
The only one around here who is full of it is you, but you know, Jack,
if you want to know where he gets his statistics, maybe you should
*WRITE TO HIM AND ASK*! Are you so clueless that you can't jump over to
the Internet and post a message to straczynski@genie.geis.com? No,
you'd rather sit there on your pompous behind and claim that he, who has
seen these "non-existent" demographics go across his desk, is a liar.
Jack, if anyone here is full of it, it's the one sitting behind your
keyboard.
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Msg : 13 of 57
From : Brian Henderson 1:207/804 .īķ 10 .žė 95 02:09
To : Frank Glover
Subj : B5 Vs St
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FG> Umm, I give Defiant-class ships more credit than Brian does too (at
FG> least until he says just *what* is poorly designed about them), but
FG> let's not get carried away. In a fair fight (that is, no suprises,
FG> just duking it out), *one* Defiant won't last against a
FG> Galaxy-class.
No offense, but I'm looking at the situation logically (something that
seems to be a dirty word in the Star Trek universe).
Let's look at the time and circumstances that the Defiant was built. A
single Borg ship had just destroyed most of Starfleet (duh, why didn't
the Borg send more ships? It's not like they would have had any
challenge taking over Earth...) The Federation was building the first
dedicated warships (forgetting that the original Enterprise was a
bleeding heavy cruiser, built and intended for conflict). Are we
supposed to believe that they are going to build ships that are inferior
to those (few) that currently exist? It *MUST* have been more powerful
than the Enterprise-D (borne out by the fact that the Defiant survived
while a Galaxy-class ship was blown to smithereens).
Therefore, if we assume that it was at least as powerful as a Galaxy-
class starship, while being much smaller and much more maneuverable, we
have to wonder why it has been so completely outmatched by everything it
has ever encountered. If it is so easily outclassed, why does the
Federation not have a fleet assembled at DS9 as a deterrent against
Dominion attack? Having a fleet hidden somewhere is ridiculous. Once
the Dominion comes through and destroys DS9 and Bajor (which the
Federation is supposed to be protecting), it's a little late to say "Oh,
yeah, we have this fleet over here."
Sheesh.
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Msg : 14 of 57
From : Brian Henderson 1:207/804 .īķ 10 .žė 95 01:22
To : Jeff Hancock
Subj : B5 Vs St
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JH> Considering how little of a Trek watcher you are, I'll have to ask
JH> you to explain your reasons for thinking so. I thought you didn't
JH> watch Trek... so did you base your opinion on watching the episodes
JH> in question, or on secondhand commentary tossed around here?
I do try to watch season finales (which is how I saw the Defiant in the
first place), as well as 4-5 episodes per season, mostly when I think my
stomach can take it again. It isn't that I have some irrational hatred
of Trek, it is that Trek just makes me ill.
As a matter of fact, I did see the season finale last year. Is there
anyone who could not predict that the Changelings ran the Dominion after
maybe 20 minutes of the finale? Or who didn't know for a fact that the
crew of the Defiant was in a holosuite? It was a joke.
Other than that, the Defiant was defined as a failed Federation
experimental warship. Granted, they did have a reason to build one
after the botched Borg attack, but for a ship that was supposed to be
incredibly powerful, it got taken right away By the Dominion. Some
great ship, eh? For a ship that should, by all rights, be more powerful
than the Enterprise-D, it didn't do diddly.
JH> This kind of thing is what makes me doubt you know what you're
JH> talking about here. The controllers of the Dominion *are* the
JH> Changelings, same as Odo. And as has been explained several times,
JH> no Changeling has ever harmed another - although that *changed* in
