To : Frank Eva
Subj : Re: B5 RERUNS???
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
E>But Tekwar is cancelled, and Legend is cancelled with some slight hope
E>that they might get a second chance as a mid-season replacement.
E>Those \are\ throwaway episodes, as far as USA and UPN are concerned.
E>Do we really want BABYLON 5 to be treated the way the \cancelled\
E>shows are being treated? I know \I\ don't.:)
FE> I see no REAL evidence that TekWar and Legend have been cancelled.
FE> When I read about it in TV Guide, that's when I'll believe it.
Believe it Frank! USA cancelled TekWar. Shatner is attempting to locate
a studio in Canada that will produce TekWar. This past week Legend
officially "bit the dust".
FE> In the meantime, I think PTEN should show the last 4 episodes... THIS
FE> SEASON. They aren't treating B5 like a "cancelled" show by doing so.
FE> They're simply finishing the season the way it was scheduled to be
FE> finished. To allow PTEN the EXCUSE you and others have provided is
FE> nothing more than trying to put a good "spin" on the wrong decision!
Who are you to say it is the wrong decision? Their decision makes perfect
sense. Why would you want to show new episodes of B-5 in July during the
middle of Summer?
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Msg : 157 of 158
From : David Johnston 1:342/14 .cź 25 .žķ 95 11:05
To : Rumble
Subj : Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> I know that the Klingons will be a huge problem. But they really
-> should not be. Look at all those new a super powerful ships build
-> after wolf 359. The Intrepid class, the Nebula class and the Defiant!
-> It could take on a small fleet of Klingons ships and with Sisko at
-> the helm it would most likely win.
Once upon a time someone tried to build the greatist warship in the
world. It was huge and had more guns mounted on than any other ship.
The first time it's guns were fired, it sank. The Defiant is not a
particularly sound design, despite it's firepower, and while it could
defeat any individual Klingon ship, a fleet could pretty quickly destroy
it just by it's own design flaws.
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Msg : 158 of 158
From : Tom Huber 1:115/477 .īķ 26 .žķ 95 00:10
To : Kay Shapero
Subj : What if
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
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KS> TH>Seriously, it sounds like a worthwhile book. I haven't found all
> TH>the UBS in our new area, so I may put out a FUBS request on SF and see
> TH>what they can churn up.
KS>STEEL BEACH was recently released in pb (I've got a hardback that someone
>made the unbelievable goof of putting into the library book sale for $1)
>so you shouldn't need a UBS - you'll find it in the new ones too. (Sorry,
>you can't have MY copy... :->)
D*rned! I'll have to go visit a NBS, then. Thanks for the feedback.
Tom
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Msg : 1 of 57
From : SEAN CASZATT 1:2601/512 .åņ 13 .žė 95 20:31
To : KEN MAYES
Subj : Re: Red Dwarf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> I've never seen the American pilot, so I can't really make an
-> judgement there. Although the idea of Terry Farrel as the Cat does so
-> intriguing. But...if they had done an American version of the series,
-> the original actors...and Grant and Naylor as series writers, it woul
-> been something to see. In my opinion it would've rivalled Trek in syn
-> But...it was not to be...unfortunately. (At the very least we might h
-> 26 episodes per season instead of a measely 6. Granted those 6 are be
-> most American offerings...and possibly if there were more, they would
-> funny per minute of airtime, (spreading the humor throughout the epis
-> were). Oh well.
I haven't seen the pilot either, but as is the case with most things
that were originally done in other countries and then "Americanized"
(ie. brought down to the lowest common denominator), I'm sure it would
have sucked.
With the original cast and writers, it may have been better...but as
you said they'd have to spread the laughs over more episode. I think
we're better off with what we have now!
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Msg : 2 of 57
From : Jeff Schlenker 1:288/19 .īķ 10 .žė 95 00:00
To : Frank Eva
Subj : DS9 Season 4
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
> QUOTING:
>FROM: Frank Eva
>TO: Jeff Schlenker
>SUBJECT: DS9 Season 4
>DATE: 07-10-95 13:50
FE> As you can see, I am not all that enthused about a Star Trek
FE> that relies heavily on the concept of armed conflict to find an
FE> audience. If that's the direction DS9 is taking, that's just
FE> another nail in its coffin for me...
JS>I wouldn't want every show to be phasers blazing throughout, but an
JS>occasional, knock-down, drag-out, fight for life would be a
JS>refreshing change, IMHO. A person can only take so much of that
JS>cerebral stuff, sitting around discussing problems throughout the
JS>show. :)
FE> Agreed! Some of my favorite TNG eps were those in which The Federation
FE> was up against The Borg! However, I just don't take anything they
FE> promise about DS9 as gospel. They seemed to be promising a new
FE> direction last season, but after those horrible first few episodes, I
FE> knew their "new direction" was going no where it hadn't already.
Hmmmm, how about a new opening monologue for DS9. (Or Voyager, for that
matter.)
...to boldly go where previous incarnations of Star Trek shows have gone
...before!
Jeff
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Msg : 3 of 57
From : Frank Eva 1:154/750 .˙ņ 14 .žė 95 06:40
To : Emilio Ares
Subj : DS9 Season 4
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: FastEcho 1.45 8060
EA> FE> As you can see, I am not all that enthused about a Star Trek
EA> FE> that relies heavily on the concept of armed conflict to find an
EA> FE> audience. If that's the direction DS9 is taking, that's just
EA> FE> another nail in its coffin for me...
EA>Agreed. IF the armed conflict is integral to the storyline that's
EA>another story. But if the excuse for the storyline is the armed
EA>conflict then you have a show that will not last. I'm thinking of
EA>the series Combat! which takes place during WWII. Armed conflict?
EA>You bet. But the stories was about the characters. In DS9 the
EA>characters are there. They have backgrounds. What are needed are
EA>writers that can take advantage of the personalities of these people
EA>that have been revealed.
We certainly are on the same wavelength! :-)
I really do have doubts about the ability of the writers responsible for
DS9. If they think they can hook in new viewers just by making DS9
another "star wars", they've got another think coming. My problem is
that I have never been very impressed with ANY of their writing to date.
Last year they seemed to be promising a new, more action-oriented
direction, but after the first 2 episodes, I knew this new direction was
not going where I could easily follow. I have never felt drawn to any of
the characters, either. So, it would take a minor miracle of another
direction to get me interested again...
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Msg : 4 of 57
From : John Kahane 1:163/198.5 .åņ 13 .žė 95 21:04
To : Chris Baugh
Subj : B5 Comic Down
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of , Chris Baugh scribed:
JK>> just find it hard to believe that the folks at DC Comics
JK>> would publish such a shoddy product. While comic stories can
CB> Yeah, that amazed me too. The stories weren't bad. I was
CB> especially surprised because on the TV show JMS obviously
CB> works hard on having a good looking program, as far as sets,
CB> lighting, effects etc., so it's a mystery why he would have
CB> approved such lousy art on the comic.
Well, Joe has said that he exercises full control over the majority of the
story elements, the continuity with the series and the overall plot, and that
some of the dialogue he'll plot for the comics, but I've got the impression that
he's not all that involved in choice of artist, if at all. This doesn't
surprise me, since Joe isn't a comics expert; he lets them do their job, and
merely involves himself in the project to the point he feels is necessary.
John
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Msg : 5 of 57
From : John Kahane 1:163/198.5 .˙ņ 14 .žė 95 10:22
To : Kay Shapero
Subj : Conversation started on B5
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of , Kay Shapero scribed:
KS> Care to continue the RPG character discussion we started over
KS> on the Babylon 5 echo? In here, it's on topic...
Sure thing, Kay... Since you started it over on the B5 echo, you get to
"start it" here again... While it is on-topic here, I suppose it should
have been taken to RECFRP or some such, but to be honest, those echoes have
totally lost my interest.
John
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Msg : 6 of 57
From : Tony Trujillo 1:280/9 .óį 15 .žė 95 01:24
To : Starwolf
Subj : Re: Sliders Continuity
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
TT>>I'm just hoping some show dies a quick death so SLIDERS can
TT>>take it's rightful place on the tube! :^)
S> I think you don't have much to worry about on that front, given how some
S> networks seem to be trying their damndest to make SURE shows die as
S> quickly as possible.
It seems that they always try to kill all of my favorite
shows however...like MAX HEADROOM. :^<
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