the past when Sinclair first met Garibaldi... A couple of things that Garibaldi
has said in the series and the comics relate, believe it or not.
JH>> Partially, although I don't remember/haven't seen that one;
JH>> JK told me about it. I'm just guessing at it being
JH>> reminiscent of the classic portrayal of angels/God in some
JH>> way without being too obvious/cheesy.
FE> Last season, because of this episode, I speculated that Kosh's
FE> people were "energy beings", but then I was reminded that they
FE> do need an artificial "environment" inside B5, and that Kosh
FE> had actually been poisoned in one episode, both of which seem
FE> to imply more than an energy being is inside that encounter
FE> suit...
Both you and Jeff, and some of the other folks around the echoes, need to
watch "The Gathering" again, Frank. Particularly the sequence with Dr. Kyle
doing his medical research on Kosh's conditions, and some of the diagnostics
that are being recorded about Kosh. There is clear evidence there that
he/she/it is organic in nature. Blood cells, crystalline structure,
respiration, cardiovascular system, and all.
This doesn't relate one way or the other to angels or anything along these
lines, but we'll have to see... Personally, I don't think it's going to be
angels or any other religious figure - that would be cheesy, and doesn't seem to
be in keeping with the sf nature of the series.
John
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Msg : 191 of 322
From : Nicole Wilson 1:271/266 .īķ 12 .žķ 95 17:00
To : Robert Lidgren
Subj : EARTH 2/SO LONG
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
RL>people" concept, I am delighted to see so many people did watch Earth 2 and
RL>those many enjoyed it. I figure I can update my estimate to 57 now!
I guess I'm 58? and don't forget to add the 60 or so people in the
Earth2 fido echo, as well as the rather sizeable (hundreds) group on
AOL, and the groups of similar sizes on GEnie, Prodigy, Delphi,
Compuserve and the Usenet, (alt.tv.earth2) as well as the WWW pages (4
run by MCA, and 5 fan-run pages) which are being visited rather
frequently. I can't believe everything that's been going on as far as
Earth 2 is concerned. Earth 2 stuff is everywhere on the nets.
RL>I wonder why there were so few positive comments while the
RL>series was a reality?
There were, just not in this echo.
(Most E2ers lobby around the "Official" fan groups.)
RL>What the cancellation has done is cause many to re-evaluate just what makes
RL>series good, how soon you should unload your guns and savage a new series an
RL>whether or not some leeway should be given so that improvement is possible a
RL>likely.
I agree with that assesment.
One thing that has popped up is that there are litrally hundreds of fans
rallying to revive the show, and fan groups have popped up.
--Nicole Wilson
Member, Earth 2 Foundations
and East Coast Earth 2 fan club
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Msg : 192 of 322
From : Seth Horne 1:129/260 .īķ 12 .žķ 95 17:56
To : All
Subj : bABYLON5
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Yo everyone...How exactly does the Jumpgate technology work, I mean, doesn't it
bend space or something?
Also, did they every describe the specification of those phat star furies??
They said that B5 was only 5 miles long. The inside views, when you look out
their windows, look so unrealistic. And when you look out at the whole view, it
doesn't even look 2 miles long. Shouldn't a station like that be important and
big? And what is that planet it is orbiting around?
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Msg : 193 of 322
From : Myra I Fox 1:123/10 .īķ 12 .žķ 95 18:24
To : Jack Butler
Subj : FitzCairn
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=>Quoting Jack Butler to Gloria Darcy<=-
JB> Heh. Roger Daltrey is very much alive. However, the character
JB> he in several two episodes of Highlander (Hugh FitzCairn) was killed by
JB> Kallas.
I really liked him too . He was a good humerous companion
to pop up in the series - a balance to Duncan's rather serious
nature.
... "Marvelous thing, technology!" Kalas
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Msg : 194 of 322
From : Kay Shapero 1:102/524 .īķ 12 .žķ 95 19:20
To : Jeff Hancock
Subj : Vorlon Immortality
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Jeff Hancock (1:3600/7) wrote to John Kahane:
JH>suspicion at the least, unless those particular Shadows don't
JH>know diddley about those ancient wars. Wouldn't the very name
JH>"Vorlons" tip them off? ;-)
Maybe they called themselves something else back then?
JH>Thanks for the refresh. How did Lyta scan Kosh through the suit,
JH>unless she's more powerful than Talia?
She didn't - she took off her glove and reached in through the hole Kyle had
opened in the suit. It didn't look like she actually touched him, but close.
(I just watched The Gathering today - kicking off my own personal one episode
per day Babylonathon for the summer. :->)
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Msg : 195 of 322
From : Kay Shapero 1:102/524 .īķ 12 .žķ 95 19:31
To : Jeff Hancock
Subj : Sliders - Bathroom? Wash
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Jeff Hancock (1:3600/7) wrote to Mark Jones:
MJ>When the Borg come calling, send them a message:
MJ>"Crunch all you want. We'll make more!"
MJ>Turn out starships as fast as you can cycle them through the airlock!
JH>Somehow this strikes me as having as much effect as raindrops
JH>hitting the sidewalk.
Ever witness a flash flood?
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Msg : 196 of 322
From : Tony Limbert 1:2215/420 .īķ 12 .žķ 95 19:58
To : Tom Huber
Subj : ENEMY MINE
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
While summoning Cthulhu, I overheard Ecarey say :
TH>I've definitely got to chase down the original. Who's the author?
Ec> Barry Longyear.
You can find a copy of the story in the anthology "REEL FUTURES", along
with the original stories for [digging book up] ...
The Empire of the Ants
Herbert West - Re-animator [The Re-Animator]
Armageddon 2419 A.D. [Buck Rogers TV show]
Who Goes There? [The Thing]
Farewell to the Master [Day the Earth Stood Still]
This Island Earth
The Illustrated Man
The Sentinel [2001: A Space Odyssey]
The Seventh Victim [The Tenth Victim]
The Racer [Death Race 2000]
The Fly
Eight O'Clock in the Morning [They Live!]
We Can Remember It For You [Total Recall]
Wholesale
Damnation Alley
Enemy Mine
Air Raid [Millennium]
I bought it for $5.00 at B. Dalton (it was on sale). Might still be in the
bargan bin at your local bookstore.
Tony Limbert
[ Limbert@corp.aldhfn.com ]
... "One grows tired of everything. Except power. " -- The Doctor
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Msg : 197 of 322
From : Derek Wakefield 1:393/7 .ņp 13 .žķ 95 02:58
To : Lawrence E Dunlap
Subj : Re: Star Blazers
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On Fri 9-Jun-1995 18:38 , Lawrence E Dunlap said to Derek Wakefield:
LD> _Star Blazers 1_ also was particularly adult for a children's audience in
LD> Houston scheduled for 08:30 weekdays.
It was shown at 15:30 in the Dallas/Ft Worth Area, while in the North East it
was generally broadcast at 06:30. Still not a very flattering timeslot for such
an adult oriented show.
LD> One episode involved IQ-9 developing a crush on Nova next to the
LD> interstellar destination of the _Argo_. One scene showed the animated and
LD> LD> emotionally upset Nova out of uniform down to only her lingerie slip.
LD> and LD> bare shoulders.
LD> Do I need to say more?
The former happened during ep-16 when Nova and IQ-9 went down to Planet
Beemera/Beeland, however they cut the part of IQ-9 flipping up her skirt in the
mess hall in that ep. The second scene never appeared in Star Blazers, having
ended up as part of the goodies on the cutting room floor. As did the shot of
Nova in the buff during the Argo's first space warp (ep-4) and IQ-9 placing one
of his hands on her posterior in ep-6 when the two of them and Wildstar were
flying down to Saturn-Titan in search of a rare mineral known as Titanite.
LD> _Star Blazers 2_ didn't have such a adult scene during its run that I
LD> detected from daily viewings of every episode.
There were a number of adult scenes in Yamato 2, but all were chopped out of the
Americanized Star Blazers. A few that come to mind include the shot of
Tokugawa/Orion relieving himself on the side of the drydock when they first
demonstrated the Time Radar, and Kato/Conroy doing the same when he noticed the
Andromeda following the ship a few episodes later. The closest we got to actual
nudity was when Nova's uniform ripped in the space cyclone a number of episodes
later.
LD> _Star Blazers 3_ might have had some adult situations that clashed with
LD> the animated program standards.
In fact, other than IQ flipping Nova's skirt once early in the series (which was
cut out), there wasn't much there to begin with. Other than the love scene
between Wildstar and Nova in Final Yamato, and the nude Teresa/Trelania in
Arrivederci Yamato, first season was the most explicit of the shows (if once
could call it that).
LD> Why buy PG-13 animated SF progams containing minimally dressed animated
LD> females when you could just show a live action PG-13 science fantasy movie
LD> LD> with the female lead's uniform at seninude half-mast during some
LD> romance? LD> Kids living in households of conservative parents won't be
LD> allowed to see LD> that and double-standard adults will drink it up.
Well, in regards to Yamato/Star Blazers, while a romantic oriented yarn, there
was a general lack of love making throughout the run of the saga. From what
I've seen of Yamato 2520, they've already laid the ground work for a more risque
plotline (based on some of the dialogue running between Nambu and Marcy). There
was room for it in the original, but the producers I suspect decided to keep the
main emphasis on the space wars, as opposed to the interpersonal relationships.
