it opens for real!
If this movie doesn't revive a little interest in space, I am among people who
have been dead WAY too long!!!
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Msg : 146 of 322
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .óį 10 .žķ 95 13:22
To : Frank Eva
Subj : Torres in Faces
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (08 Jun 95) Frank Eva wrote to Mark Jones...
MJ> *permanently* transformed into a mere human, her Klingon self
MJ> dead dead dead...that would have made it worthwhile. We could
MJ> have had many, many episodes worth of angst. She'd have had to
MJ> recreate her identity from ashes. How much of what she had been
MJ> was genetic, and how much environmental? How much of
FE>
FE> Ever since TNG, individual Trek characters have become less important
FE> than the whole. To put this much development into the Torres character
FE> would not be possible under this philosophy, IMO...
It doesn't have to be that way, though. In fact, one story idea I'd
like to see them address is a mass defection.
Suppose Voyager came upon a world that was highly advanced
technically, highly advanced ethically, people with warm, friendly,
caring aliens who greet them with smiles and invite them to stay.
And suppose half the crew decides they *want* to stay? After all, why
spend most of your life in a starship risking death by accident,
attack or simple failure of systems that aren't being maintained
properly (because they *can't* be) when you'll only get back home
after 70 years anyhow? Why not stay on a very pleasant, friendly
world and build a new life there?
How does Janeway and the command crew handle this? Do they lock
everyone in their quarters and warp out? Do they send the security
teams downto retrieve the AWOL crewmen? (CAN they do that? TNG gives
me the definite impression that Star Fleet officers, at least, and
possibly crewmen, can quit at the drop of a hat.)
(And no fair cheating your way out of the dilemma either, by making
the world "too good to be true" and painting it as a deliberate trap
or a horrible fate that only looked good at first glance...which is
the standard Trek response to such conflicts, thereby destroying the
conflict potential. This world really is all its cracked up to be.)
... If you're done speaking freely, please step into the oven....
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Msg : 147 of 322
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .óį 10 .žķ 95 13:35
To : Jeff Hancock
Subj : ST: The Next Generation
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (08 Jun 95) Jeff Hancock wrote to Mark Jones...
MJ> Since the doc is programmed (in his own words) with the full
MJ> history of Federation medicine, presumably he is aware of the
MJ> 20th century heart-lung machine...and could have had one
MJ> replicated (or built by the engineering staff).
JH>
JH> Here's something to think about: the lungs, of course, have
JH> millions of little blood vessels hooked up to them; so as soon as
JH> those lungs were removed that cavity would have filled up with
JH> blood. Why didn't he die from internal bleeding, "electronic
JH> lung" or no? And how did they seal those blood vessels up, create
JH> the holo-lung, and then connect them back up like that? ;-)
Well, since I think 24th century medicine should be vastly more
effective than it appears to be, I'm willing to let them slide on that
one. (But they're good questions nonetheless.)
MJ> Given the frequency with which Voyager is attacked or damaged
MJ> accidentally, and the power shortages...I don't think being
MJ> stored in RAM is particularly safe.
JH>
JH> True, true. But any less safe than using the holo-generators to make a
JH> lung?
Yes--if Neelix's holo-lungs fail, he still has about 4 minutes
(assuming he's relatively human in that regard) before irreparable
brain damage due to lack of oxygen begins to occur. That's time
enough to at least *try* to recreate the holo-lungs (assuming a
momentary power failure) or to put him in suspended animation, or
something equally desperate.
But if he's nothing more than a transporter pattern cycling endlessly
through the buffer, if the power fails...he's gone forever, like a
dropped QWK packet when somebody disconnects your modem!
JH> MJ>If they just cut to the chase and backed him up on disk, that'd be
JH> MJ>something else again.
JH>
JH> I don't think they have an equivalent that holds that much information
JH> in a non-volitile form.
Which strikes me as a silly double-talk dodge to avoid doing just
that. If real-world computers are any indication of how Trek
computers operate, non-volatile storage will *vastly* exceed the RAM
available to them. Besides, they can always use a compression scheme
on the transporter trace. They can .ARC or .ARJ Neelix until they're
ready to recreate him....
... Assassinate IRA KGB cryptographers stealing Zimmerman's cocaine!
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Msg : 148 of 322
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .óį 10 .žķ 95 13:48
To : Ecarey
Subj : EARTH 2/SO LONG
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (08 Jun 95) Ecarey wrote to Robert Lidgren...
E > Malls need bookstores, but little mall bookstores with limited
E > selections are no longer where money is made in bookselling. The big
E > money is all in the big stores with lots of selection. This is as true
E > of independents as it is of the chains. The independents need to
E > either have great depth in a specialty area [sf&f, women's,
E > gay&lesbian, African-American, children's, etc.] or they need to have
E > the same breadth and the same browse-all-you-want want atmospher as
E > the chain superstores in order to compete.
Which is why I'm very glad to be living in Portland, Oregon. We have
POWELL'S CITY OF BOOKS here. The *main* bookstore is a three-story
building covering an entire city block. Then there's POWELL'S
TECHNICAL BOOK STORE, a couple of blocks away, a smaller (but still
quite large) bookstore devoted to technical tomes. And there are, I
understand though I haven't visited them, still other satellite
stores.
And the new and used books are shelved together, so you can look for
*all* the books in a series in one fell swoop when/if you discover a
new author you enjoy.
... Western Civilization died today, after a long illness....
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Msg : 149 of 322
From : Steven Skaggs 1:3608/250 .óį 10 .žķ 95 22:47
To : Dwight T. Fidler
Subj : Re: Star Wars
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 94-2198
-=> Quoting Dwight T. Fidler to Steven Skaggs <=-
SS> When did Lucas give a specific date on when the new movies would
SS> definately be out? I've heard dates before too but usually from other
SS> sources...
DTF> Has He Come Out And Said That There Will For Sure Be More Movies??
DTF> i've Heard Lotsa Rumours... The Last being That it All Fell
DTF> Through!
Yes he has. There was a short interview with him in TV guide several months
ago. I forget what month and week exactly. It had a picture of the Voyager
captain on the front of it. He said that the first of the new Star Wars
movies will be out before the year 2000.
... "The monster gives you a nasty owie!" -- Anonymous DM
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Msg : 150 of 322
From : Steven Skaggs 1:3608/250 .óį 10 .žķ 95 22:52
To : Dwight T. Fidler
Subj : Re: Star Wars
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 94-2198
-=> Quoting Dwight T. Fidler to Steven Skaggs <=-
DTF> Hopefully Before None Of The Youth Recognize Star Wars.
DTF> it Was Disheartening When i Heard A Bunch of Yun-Uns Going
DTF> Around Saying.... What Is Star wars... Darth Who?
DTF> Skywalker... What A Stupid Name. Boring...
DTF> Oh It Lowered My Soul To Hear That!
That is pretty sad. Star Wars is still pretty prominant though. There are
the books, the commercials (Micro Machines and Energizer Bunny) and the
movies are shown now and then on both the sci-fi channels and USA. And there
are even quite a few new toys out.
DTF> What About TIMOTHY ZAHN's??? What'd Everyone think Of Them?
I think that Timothy Zahn's books are the best to come out so far.
SS> I think all licenses for the books and all other Star Wars related
SS> material expire in '96 or '97. Another indication that he has plans.
DTF>
DTF> Really.... What Will That Mean?
Probably that Lucas has other plans for Star Wars.
DTF> Sorry to Jump In.... And Sorry To Be A Little Ignorant!
DTF> I Do Love Star Wars Though...
Doesn't everybody?
... We secretly replaced their Protoculture with New Foldgers Crystals...
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Msg : 151 of 322
From : Tony Trujillo 1:280/9 .cź 11 .žķ 95 05:44
To : Starwolf
Subj : Re: Sliders Continuity
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
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S> Well, they'd better get on with it, then (production and making their
S> minds up to continue the series). It isn't "great", but it's a whole
S> lot better than quite a bit of the drivel out there.
I really like the show because it doesn't take itself too
seriously...which is a quality that's been lacking in SF
series for awhile.
S> Er, you wouldn't happen to have FOX' mailing address or FAX number?
I pulled this from the SLIDERS FAQ:
>=====================================================================
Fox Broadcasting has not yet decided whether or not to renew
SLIDERS for a second season. If you would like to see more
episodes, please write a *polite* letter expressing your opinion
to:
Mr. John Matoyan
Fox Broadcasting Company
10201 W. Pico Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90035
In this age of laser written mass mailings, a single hand-written
letter to Mr. Matoyan may have as much impact as ten laser printed
letters or a hundred e-mail messages to sliders@dephi.com.
This name and address has been confirmed by Robert K. Weiss, the
co-creator of SLIDERS so I know it's accurate.
>=====================================================================
... Don't blame me! I voted for BILL + OPUS!
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Msg : 152 of 322
From : Kay Shapero 1:102/524 .cź 11 .žķ 95 08:40
