know how reliable that information is but I hope it is true.
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Msg : 99 of 322
From : Cyndi Edwards 1:324/116 .åō 08 .ūí 95 10:43
To : Mark Jones
Subj : White Dwarf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
I know what you mean I sat through the whole show but just to get my "hacker
card". It is like they took a half hour show and turned it into 2 hours, talk
about slow. I will probably give it a second chance if they do decide to make a
series but only one more shot.
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Msg : 100 of 322
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .åō 08 .ūí 95 11:21
To : Robert Lidgren
Subj : EARTH 2/SO LONG
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
> Rememebr, it's only something like 10% of the population who read
> novels.
> That's a scary statistic but it's accurate as far as I know. If you
> DON'T READ
> SCIENCE FICTION you haven't a clue about what the possibilities
> might be for a
> science fiction film or TV series.
It only sounds like a scary statistic when you take it in isolation and don't
ask intelligent questions about WHICH DIRECTION readership has been going in.
My grandparents were illiterate. My mother and her siblings were dropped by
their friends as stuck-up snobs when my illiterate grandmother decided that all
her children were going to GRADUATE from high school. Most of my cousins have
been to college, and a few, like me, have graduate degrees.
More people then ever before in the history of the world are getting some of
their recreation from \reading\, and the most desperately insecure of the
intellectual snobs have been forced to resort to such strategems as declaring
that some collections of bound pages covered with printed words telling a story
aren't "real books".
Book sales in the US have been going straight UP for the last couple of decades.
Sales of individual \titles\ are \down\, but the total \number\ of titles, and
the total sales of books, are skyrocketing. More people are reading more
different things.
Mall bookstores are sneered at, often with reason, but when was the last time
you saw a mall without a bookstore? Often there's two. A bookstore is as
necessary a feature of a mall as the two anchor stores and someplace to eat
lunch. Why do you suppose this is, if nobody is reading?
And look at what's happening with non-mall bookstores. Superstores are taking
over - lots and lots of different titles, in a pleasant atmosphere which
includes \chairs\ and frequently an espresso bar. It's the whole basis of
Borders, it's the way Barnes and Noble is going, and only Waldenbooks, of the
national chains, doesn't have such stores. Waldenbooks is experiencing some
difficulties because sales aren't keeping up with their competitors...
Malls need bookstores, but little mall bookstores with limited selections are no
longer where money is made in bookselling. The big money is all in the big
stores with lots of selection. This is as true of independents as it is of the
chains. The independents need to either have great depth in a specialty area
[sf&f, women's, gay&lesbian, African-American, children's, etc.] or they need to
have the same breadth and the same browse-all-you-want want atmospher as the
chain superstores in order to compete.
People are reading. They're just not all following sheeplike in the reading
footsteps of the fashion leaders.
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Msg : 101 of 322
From : Dkimmel 1:101/230 .åō 08 .ūí 95 13:42
To : Ecarey
Subj : JMS STUFF 6/1
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Thought you might be interested in this item from the B5 echo:
MM>>Why is PTEN holding the last four?
MM> The last 4 episodes of this season are being held by PTEN until
MM>October, in theory to lead into the year three (not yet approved) debut
MM>in November. I think I finally sussed out why this is being done; I
MM>heard the other day that Voyager is doing the same thing. So that means
MM>PTEN is counter programming it.
MM> jms
* SLMR 2.1a * When correctly viewed, EVERYTHING is lewd.
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Msg : 102 of 322
From : John Kahane 1:163/198.5 .åō 08 .ūí 95 16:47
To : Richard Yamagata
Subj : B5 Catch-Up
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of , Richard Yamagata scribed:
RY> Hello John and all visitors to this echo!
Visitors to this echo? Umm...errr...what did I miss here? :)
RY> The sight with the plot synopsis and analysis that I visit
RY> regularly is: http://www.hyperion.com From there you just
RY> select: The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5 to go into the most
RY> complete B5 site in the world -- at least that is my opinion.
This is what I've heard as well...however, I've also heard from folks
who've downloaded stuff like the Lurker's Guide, who say that some of the files
badly need updating. Not to mention a few corrections.
RY> Your work posting the synopsises on the B5 echo is wonderful.
Thanks for the compliment. Glad you like it.
RY> It is also a lot of work.
Yes, it is. I do this more as a labour of love, than anything else. When
it becomes work, I'll likely stop. :) I hope that some of my material will be
posted up to the www or to Internet some day, but have no idea whether it's
already there. If so, I'd appreciate knowing about it.
John
.....
One pennyworth of example was worth a pound of punishment. (WA)
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Msg : 103 of 322
From : John Kahane 1:163/198.5 .åō 08 .ūí 95 16:52
To : Frank Eva
Subj : Confessions & Lamentations
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Frank Eva wrote to Kay Shapero:
KS>> You'll note that that news announcer said that there were
KS>> probably surviving individuals in remote places, but the
KS>> Markab civilization was dead; maybe some of these survivors
KS>> will pop up later.
FE> Yeah, that was kind of the gist of the last comment in my
FE> post, that somehow JMS could discover an isolated colony of
FE> Markabs... if he wants to bring them back...
I think the whole business with the Markabs was brilliant, and
well-executed. The fact that there are likely to be one or two isolated
colonies out there is a good indicator that the Markabs will be seen again in
the series. The question now becomes what will happen with the Markab
homeworld, and will some other species stake a claim to it?
The really neat thing is that the business with the Markabs is not the
"decimation of a major race's homeworld" that JMS has been hinting at for a
while. Looks like the dying hasn't even started yet.
John
.....
"What good is being a witch if you don't do magic?" - Magrat Garlick (WA)
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Msg : 104 of 322
From : John Kahane 1:163/198.5 .åō 08 .ūí 95 16:58
To : Jack Butler
Subj : Confessions et. al.
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of , Jack Butler scribed:
JK>> I'll do the best I can about this, Jack, but it'll take
JK>> me a bit of time. I'm up to my butt right now in projects,
JK>> and there's a paying one (for writing an article or two)
JK>> that I need to finish up first. Can you wait a bit on this?
JK>> (Not like we'll be seeing new episodes of B5 until October
JK>> now... :>> )
JB> Not a problem at all...
Thanks, muchly. Just do me a favour, please, and give me a gentle
reminder about this in a month or so. Not that I'm likely to forget, with the
post-it on the computer, but you never know...
John
.....
People didn't hit you over the head with farmhouses back home. (WA)
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Msg : 105 of 322
From : John Kahane 1:163/198.5 .åō 08 .ūí 95 17:03
To : Frank Eva
Subj : Mira and Delenn
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of , Frank Eva scribed:
FG>> Less physically attractive, too. Some people look *better*
FG>> as an alien than a human. Robin Curtis is one...Mira Furlan,
FG>> IMHO, is another.
FE> Agreed! However, she still looks better than she did in the
FE> pilot. She looked almost manly, then...
She was *meant* to look manly in "The Gathering," Frank. :)
John
.....
One day a tortoise will learn how to fly. (SG)
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Msg : 106 of 322
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .åō 08 .ūí 95 17:58
To : Dkimmel
Subj : JMS STUFF 6/1
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
DK> Thought you might be interested in this item from the B5 echo:
>
>
> MM>>Why is PTEN holding the last four?
>
> MM> The last 4 episodes of this season are being held by PTEN
> until
> MM>October, in theory to lead into the year three (not yet approved)
> debut
> MM>in November. I think I finally sussed out why this is being
> done; I
> MM>heard the other day that Voyager is doing the same thing. So
> that means
> MM>PTEN is counter programming it.
> MM> jms
Makes sense. It's one thing to "waste" four episodes in July and start the
season in November if everyone else is starting in November, and another thing
to do that if the most direct competition the show has is holding four episodes
to start in October. And while DS9 is more similar in tone and feel, it's
Voyager that's currently the other sf series which is fighting for an audience
and likely to get one.
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Msg : 107 of 322
From : David Johnston 1:342/14 .˙ō 09 .ūí 95 01:06
To : All
Subj : How Many?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
How many Minbari: Two. One to change it, and one to hand it to the
first one in a ceremony lasting three days.
How many Centauri: Once we were a GREAT PEOPLE! Once we knew how to
