To : Angela Smith
Subj : Octavia Butler
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (12 Mar 96) Angela Smith wrote to Mark Jones...
MJ> You bet! I read everything she writes. She has a vivid
MJ> imagination and writes extremely well (even though her sense of
MJ> life is really depressing). I didn't care for the Xenogenesis
MJ> series when I
AS> You're the 2nd person to say that...Even though she can be
AS> depressing, IMO she says things a lotta people don't wanna hear
AS> thru herbooks sometimes , like about racism, human sexuality and
AS> stuff that makes folks squirm! I am waiting for the next book
AS> anyway with bated breath...
That's not it, though. Not for me. When I say that her sense of
life is really depressing, I'm referring to the fact that nearly every
relationship in her fiction is antagonistic, and even the "good" ones
tend to be based on a balance of power. And virtually every novel
she's ever written consists of putting someone into an unbearable
situation from which they CANNOT escape--and then seeing how they bear
it (or fail to bear it).
Still, despite her very dark view of humanity (and of life), she's a
wonderful writer and I am also looking forward to her next novel.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 131 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .åō 14 .āp 96 19:21
To : Gary Warren
Subj : How does Catherine survive into new B&B miniseries??
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On (12 Mar 96) Gary Warren wrote to Mark Jones...
MJ> What *I* would like to see is a Beauty & The Beast/Quantum Leap
MJ> cross-over miniseries. Sam Beckett leaps in to SAVE Catherine so
MJ> that she doesn't die in the first place! It would be GREAT!
GW>
GW> I'm not sure about that, unless Sam and Al took a bunch of troops
GW> from the New Mexico lab to leap with them to Gabriel's
GW> headquarters/hangout. If you'll remember, it was WELL fortified
GW> floor to floor with henchmen, which was why Vincent was too late
GW> to save Catherine from being poisoned.
That isn't necessarily the case. It depends on *when* Sam leaps
in, and *who* Sam possesses. He could abort the whole thing before
Gabriel ever gets his hands on Catherine. Or he could leap into one
of the armed goons guarding Catherine and find a way to help her
escape. Or he could leap into a policeman (or DA--as I recall, in the
fan-fic story, he possessed Joe, Catherine's DA pal). A cop or a DA
who figured out where she was being held *could* gather an army.
GW> What I'd MUCH prefer instead of Catherine is to have Cat's replacement
GW> become solidly Vincent's love interest. Can't remember the actress's
GW> name, but until last year, she was the unknown fourth half-sister
GW> in NBC's SISTERS (which supposedly is in its final season).
I think you're solidly in the minority on this one. And since
Linda Hamilton is supposed to be involved in the story, I don't think
it has a prayer of happening that way.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 132 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .åō 14 .āp 96 19:25
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : 'bugs' in ST: Generations
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On (12 Mar 96) Todd Sullivan wrote to Mark Jones...
MJ> Meanwhile, in the "real" world, the planet was destroyed, the
MJ> Enterprise and its crew were destroyed and everything we see in
MJ> ST:TNG from there on out is part of his fantasy....
TS>
TS> The only thing that destroys this line of reasoning is Worf's
TS> assignment to DS9.
Not at all. Worf is dead. EVERYTHING happening in the Federation
is part of Picard's fantasy--we're seeing the Federation as Picard
thinks it exists. Not as it really is....
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 133 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .ķá 16 .āp 96 15:53
To : Jeff Hancock
Subj : How does Catherine surviv
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On (14 Mar 96) Jeff Hancock wrote to Mark Jones...
JH> Peter David did one in one of his "But I Digress..." columns, and
JH> it was included in the trade paperback collection of the same
JH> name. May find it at a comic shop, but you'll probably have to
JH> have the owner order it from the Previews catalog.
JH>
JH> And yes, he mentioned that he found out later there was a fan-fic
JH> which took the same idea in a different direction. Dunno about
JH> that one.
Yes, I'd heard that Peter David had done a B&B/QL cross-over. But
the one *I* saw (but didn't buy, darn it, at a convention three years
ago) was by a woman. I didn't buy it because they wanted way too much
money for it--I hardly ever by hardback novels by *name* writers, much
less equally pricy xeroxed fan-fiction....
I wish now that I had bought it anyhow. The whole notion is just
so entertaining that I regret passing it by.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 134 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .ķá 16 .āp 96 15:56
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : Catherine Returns
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On (15 Mar 96) Brion Lienhart wrote to Mark Jones...
BL> -MJ> What other options are there?
BL>
BL> Ooh, ooh! Here's another one: The Sliders come tripping through
BL> and pick up a Catherine from a parallel dimension where she never
BL> met Beastie Boy, and drop her off on the TV show dimension.
Say! That's got potential. (Or better still, they find a
Catherine from a world where VINCENT died. And they drop her off on a
world where Vincent is mourning his lost Catherine. B&B couldn't have
gotten much more lovey-dovey anyhow (though I liked it a lot, don't
get me wrong!), but having both characters *know* what it was like to
have lost the other, well....
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 135 of 249
From : Wes Yahola 1:123/569 .ōp 19 .āp 96 04:26
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : SLIDERS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
-WY> It turned out (in typical tv fashion) that he got hit in the
-WY>shoulder. No small wound, but they did show him suffering some from it
-WY>in the [Sorcererworld*] episode. Splitting hairs tho', no big thing.
-WY>*can't remeber the episode name
BL> Yah know, contrary to popular belief, being shot doesn't necessarily
BL> mean instant death. 80% of people shot with handguns survive (IIRC,
BL> the guard used his pistol to shoot him). I'm pretty sure that I said
BL> at the time of the "finale" that it was just a flesh-wound.
You may well have. I've slept since then I have no idea. :>
That Quin's a primary character also pretty well convinced me he'd survive if
the series did.
... I tried to contain myself, but I escaped.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
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Msg : 136 of 249
From : Wes Yahola 1:123/569 .ōp 19 .āp 96 04:26
To : Tony Trujillo
Subj : Sliders is BACK!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
-=> Tony Trujillo had this to say to Wes Yahola <=-
TT> Speaking of Harry, I've never read any of his books. The only book
TT> I attempted to read by him was called THE CASE OF THE TOXIC SPELL
TT> DUMP...which I in fact dumped about 40 pages into it. Are there some
TT> other books (I do know if GUNS OF THE SOUTH) that I should really
TT> check out?
I've never read any of his novels (economic reasons), but I have a great
collectionof his short stories called - "Departures". Probably a good place to
start.
... explain counter clockwise to one with a digital watch.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
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Msg : 137 of 249
From : JOHN ROSS 1:3400/23 .ōp 19 .āp 96 02:32
To : NICOLAI SHAPERO
Subj : Nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.SPTH: FidoNet#1:3400/23 :369/110
NS>Yes, I read that one. The aliens looked like large dogs, but their eyes wer
NS>set underneath the muzzle. Reason? Mr. Niven's explanation was something
NS>along the lines of "otherwise, they wouldn't be able to see anything that th
NS>were working on close to their chests" (never having tried, apparently, to w
NS>on something close to his own chest and discovering that there's this
NS>remarkable thing called a neck, that bends...) The alien race called
Actually ,Niven's rationalization was that the Dog-like muzzle would
block LOS even if the neck did bend.Try putting on a Donald Duck bill
,or a decent Werewolf muzzle and then checking out your upper chest.
---
ū SLMR 2.1a ū ..Played poker with Tarot cards.Got a flush.5 people died
--- AdeptXBBS v1.07a (Registered)
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Msg : 138 of 249
From : JOHN ROSS 1:3400/23 .ōp 19 .āp 96 02:32
To : BRION LIENHART
Subj : Starship Troopers
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.SPTH: FidoNet#1:3400/23 :369/110
BL>On Tue Mar 12, Nicolai Shapero said to James Walton:
BL> MH> Michael Ironside is in final negotiations to star in Paul
BL> MH> Verhoeven's sci-fi action film _Starship Troopers_. Ironside
BL> MH> last worked with Verhoeven on his hit sci-fi epic _Total
BL> MH> Recall_.
BL> JW>Too old. Ironside is a poor choice.
BL> -NS>I was thinking about it on the work and it hit me that he might make a
BL> -NS>good Sargeant Zim...
BL>That's what I was thinking too. However, unless they did a whole lot of
BL>rewriting, I wouldn't call Sgt Zim a starring role. Then again, this is from
BL>press release so who knows.
Didn't Sgt Zim star in the chapter as the Senior NCO in the part where
the main Character is a 3rd LT and they are digging out bugs?
---
ū SLMR 2.1a ū please keep honking...I need a second to reload!
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Msg : 139 of 249
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .îí 18 .āp 96 02:53
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : Starship Troopers
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Brion Lienhart (1:213/700.2) wrote to Nicolai Shapero:
BL>That's what I was thinking too. However, unless they did a whole
BL>lot of rewriting, I wouldn't call Sgt Zim a starring role.
