echo, and are subject to suspension of SFFAN echomail priviledges
if they refuse to comply with the echo rules. Sysops who refuse to
police their users (or themselves) on this echo are subject to
having their feeds cut without warning -- yes, I do hold sysops to
a higher standard. A list of users and sysops on probation and
suspension is included in the detailed rules, which are posted
at roughly one month intervals.
The word of the moderator is the word of god. Once the edict is
issued, please take any further comments and/or discussions to netmail.
This is not a democracy. In the event of my disappearance of early
demise, my wife Kay Shapero will take my place. If both of us
disappear without having time to appoint an heir to the echo, you
will likely have to fight it out with the FidoNet bureaucracy...
-- Nicolai Shapero, Moderator of SFFAN
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Msg : 104 of 249
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .ķá 16 .āp 96 11:31
To : All
Subj : Msg 1 of 3: Rules
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Rules for SFFAN (Message 1 of 3)
This humble (?) individual, also known as the moderator of the SFFAN
echo, intends that this echo be used for discussions of any subject
related to SF fandom. So: Trek, Who, Anime are all acceptable topics.
Of course, any literary sf topic is obviously "in bounds". Related
technical discussions are also allowable, but try not to go off into
"my computer is better than your computer" arguments. And, oh yes, I
also allow discussions of role playing games (fantasy and otherwise).
After all, RPGers are frequently sffen too! (Just try to keep things
VAGUELY in the sf/fantasy area in your discussions, please?) FANTASY
IS ON TOPIC. FANTASY IS ON TOPIC. FANTASY IS ON TOPIC. And what I
tell you three times is true...
Once ye olde moderator declares a thread "off topic" PLEASE DROP THE
SUBJECT. Take any further comments to NETMAIL. Repeated infractions
of this rule can result in nastygrams from the Moderator...
Personal attacks are to be kept off the echo; but remember that to
attack the idea is NOT the same thing as attacking the holder of that
idea. Keep things "nice" -- no obscene language, no hitting below the
belt.
I'd like people to be a bit more careful with the quoting functions
of their editors. Please do NOT quote entire messages (including the
origin lines). Quote only what is necessary. Show a little bit of
kindness for the sysops who have to pay to transports these messages
all over the world.
Commercial messages (anything that solicits money) are OFF TOPIC. If
you're going to make money on the deal, TAKE IT TO NETMAIL. This is
not a "for sale" echo, nor is it an "investor's hotline" echo.
(Continued in next message)
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Msg : 105 of 249
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .ķá 16 .āp 96 11:31
To : All
Subj : Msg 2 of 3: Rules
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Rules for SFFAN (Message 2 of 3)
No one by the name of Arthur Werner, Sal Devita, or any variants
thereof is permitted on this echo. We do NOT need the Werner-beast,
in ANY of his incarnations, on this echo. In keeping with the spirit
of this rule, Bob Charles is also banned from this echo -- for life.
It is requested that no sysop allow access to or provide a feed for
SFFAN to this individual.
Hanah Deborah is also banned from this echo for an indefinite period,
as is Graeme Smith.
For rudeness above and beyond the call, yet another individual joins
the "permanent invitation to the world" club: John Giannini.
If message traffic is being gated into this conference from any other
network, then each message must show in the origin line, the FidoNet
address of the system that is doing the gating so that netmail may be
properly directed to users posting from the other network. The gating
station MUST BE LISTED IN THE FIDONET NODELIST AS AN APPROVED GATEWAY
STATION!
The first time that anyone breaks one of these or other FidoNet rules
I will try and notify them via netmail. Depending upon the infraction,
I may also post a message in the echo. Repeated infractions may result
in the offender being banned from the echo, either for a limited time or
forever. I do not need variants on the Werner-beast on this echo!
Sysops are held fully accountable for the actions of all users on their
BBSs. Failure by a sysop to properly discipline a user, or failure of
a sysop to suspend access of a user on request of the Moderator may
result in loss of access to this echo. Sysops who violate the rules of
this conference, in spirit or letter, are subject to having their feeds
cut without further warning. I am fully prepared to go "up the line" on
this one, folks, so DO NOT PUSH YOUR LUCK. Any sysop who starts playing
"rules lawyer" (and I think you all understand what I'm talking about)
is subject to having his feed cut without further warning. Feed cuts
will be FOR A MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS, WITH A MANDATORY ONE YEAR
PROBATIONARY PERIOD FOLLOWING RESTORATION OF ACCESS. Any violation of
the rules in spirit or letter during the probationary period makes the
offending sysop subject to permanent loss of feed.
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Msg : 106 of 249
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .ķá 16 .āp 96 11:31
To : All
Subj : Msg 3 of 3: Rules
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Rules for SFFAN (Message 3 of 3)
In the event that I become unable to continue as moderator for SFFAN,
Kay Shapero will serve in my stead unless and until she decides to
step down. This is not a democracy. No one gets to vote on who the
moderator will be.
High order ASCII characters (IBM graphics characters) are not allowed
in messages on this echo. They cause great grief for a lot of systems
and their use is to be avoided.
Special characters or strings as in those used for Postscript, TeX,
and similar page description languages are not to be used in SFFAN. I
would much prefer to see standard BBS practices followed (fake under-
score or all caps for emphasis).
These rules are not to be taken as all inclusive. The moderator re-
serves the right to add rules any time he deems it necessary to main-
tain the character of the echo.
For those readers out there who think that SF fandom is just bit too
strange for words, just zip over to one of the OTHER conferences; it
will only get weirder here.
The following people are on probation for rules violations or other
problems on the echo:
Name End of Probation
============= =================
The following individuals have received an "invitation to the world":
They are banned from this echo until the date listed after their
names. These are "temporary" suspensions of SFFAN echomail priviledges,
but they are total (no read or write access permitted to SFFAN -- all
sysops carrying this echo are asked to comply)
Name End of Suspension
============= =================
Chris Ogniben (1:2604/568) 15 September 1996
Chris Thurman (1:141/415) 1 May 1996
Michael Weir (1:147/61) 5 May 1996
The following is a list of STATIONS that for which the feed of SFFAN
has been ordered cut. Such cuts are for a minimum 6 month period,
and have additional probationary periods following restoration
of service:
Name End of Suspension
============= =================
-- Nicolai Shapero, the slightly bemused sysop of StormGate Aerie
Moderator of the SFFAN echo.
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Msg : 107 of 249
From : John Ewin 1:209/232 .åō 07 .āp 96 23:33
To : All
Subj : Hello!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
ABSOLUT(e)LY TEMPORARY, of Las Vegas, NV, USA, +1-702-254-8601 <=14,400,
+1-702-254-9902 <=33,600, is now carrying this echo!
+++ ABSOLUT(e)LY TEMPORARY's Co-Sysop/FIDO Sysop
---
RM 1.3 03162 So what if I want to strut around nude? -Bart Simpson
--- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 5
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Msg : 108 of 249
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .ķá 16 .āp 96 22:22
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : TERAFORMING
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Nicolai shot back!
NS> Just as long signatures are forbidden, I'd like to see the extra long
NS> header to quotes dropped as well. Could you do something about this?
NS> Thank you for your cooperation,
Done.
Todd Sullivan
... "I call Christianity the one great curse...the one immortal blemish
of mankind." --Nietzsche
-*- ASTG 1.9
--- Spot 1.3a Unregistered
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Msg : 109 of 249
From : Kim Wheat 1:275/102 .cę 17 .āp 96 10:46
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : Trek Movie "bugs"
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
---<<*<<< Todd dazzled Buc Wheat with these words of wisdom!! >>>**>>----
TS> I'll start with STIV.
TS> These are mostly involving the USS Enterprise aircraft carrier, which
TS> was really the USS Ranger (CV-61, not CVN-65).
TS> The Marines don't patrol the engineering spaces at any time.
And as a 23 yr sailor myself, loved how they could 'detect' the
present of the 'intruders' and track um!!!
Kim :)
___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30
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Msg : 110 of 249
From : Marcus Green 1:123/569 .cę 17 .āp 96 20:17
To : Kim Wheat
Subj : WORD??
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
-=> Quoting Kim Wheat to Barton Paul Levenson <=-
BP>I know this is just the kind of pseudo-theological cuteness SF
BP>fans are always using, but please try to remember that some of us
BP>take concepts like "the word of God" seriously.
KW> So do I, Barton! In fact I woke up the other morning and the old guy
KW> ...whoops...the old 'Guy' had written 'SMEG-HEAD' on my bathroom
KW> mirror w/ my shaving cream!!
KW> Sheesh, He certainly has one weird sense of humor!! :)
He sure does! I mean, look at the platypus!! It's a mammal, and it lays eggs.
Maybe He got ahold of some good smoke that morning or something..:)
It's important to keep a sense of humor about Life.. because you WON'T get out
of it alive, you know...
So,(to get back on topic) has anyone read the new ST Novel?
