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Msg : 33 of 249
From : Leonard Lin 1:141/415 .îí 11 .āp 96 02:08
To : Frank Glover
Subj : Re: 'bugs' in ST: Generations
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Quoting Frank Glover to Bryan Malone <=-
FG> destroyed. The nature of the Nexus let Picard and Kirk come back just
FG> before that, and prevent it. I have no problem with an acknowledged
FG> change in the timeline. I think the other guy did, butI was responding
FG> to another part of his message....
The nature of the nexus, in fact would have allowed Picard and Kirk, if TPTB
had wished it so, to go anywhere and anywhen and prevented *everything*
having to do with Soren, or at the very least, in the movie prevented. In
fact, they still could, since time has no meaning in the nexus. They could
have stayed, and enjoyed their stay, and in fact, still are, from our point
of view *in* the nexus. That's what I really didn't get, none of the movie
makes sense... ;)
... Where there's a will, there's lawyers.
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Msg : 34 of 249
From : JOHN ROSS 1:3400/23 .ōp 12 .āp 96 12:25
To : KAY SHAPERO
Subj : Re: Help
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.SPTH: FidoNet#1:3400/23 :369/110
KS> JR>Thanks Kay,Actually I did see it ,but not until I had sent my
KS> JR>second letter to you .Thanks alot.
KS>You're welcome! Hope you liked it. (Wanna see some of *my* songs?)
Well ,as long as their not too clean and discustingly pure. :)
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Msg : 35 of 249
From : David Johnston 1:342/14 .pä 13 .āp 96 00:15
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : Teraforming
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> BPL> I disagree. Mars, with its 0.38 g surface gravity, is perfectly
-> BPL> capable of holding a massive atmosphere against Jeans escape for
-> BPL> geologically long periods of time.
-> Possibly, but can humans adjust to the lower pressure? Just doing a
-> bit of quick-and-dirty (stipulated) math, .38 x 14.7 = 5.586 PSIA, or
-> some such. It's not even that thin atop the Andes, IIRC.
While the low gravity would reduce the pressure, it would not
inherently reduce the density. Pressure, in itself is not a problem.
It would just be a problem of how to get enough atmospheric density.
->
-> Anyone who lives there and adjusts will have to remain permanently;
-> the adjustments would be a bit radical, IMO.
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Msg : 36 of 249
From : David Johnston 1:342/14 .pä 13 .āp 96 00:17
To : Mark Jones
Subj : Alien Threats?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> earth). The aliens, who had FTL travel and horrifically advanced
-> sciences, had sent someone to earth after they discovered the probe.
-> They thought our probe was a remarkable achievement (quaint, perhaps,
-> but a very clever design given our backwardness).
Not true. They didn't have horrificly advanced sciences. They just had
one gimmick we'd overlooked.
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Msg : 37 of 249
From : David Johnston 1:342/14 .pä 13 .āp 96 00:19
To : Mark Jones
Subj : 'Bugs' In St: Generations
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> As I see it, Picard is *still* in the Nexus. He never left.
-> The Nexus, basically, gives you what you want most. What Picard
-> wanted most was to save the Enterprise (and the world full of
-> aliens).
If that is the case, Picard would eventually figure it out because what
the Nexus CAN'T give you is unhappiness.
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Msg : 38 of 249
From : Judy Hayes 1:154/40 .ōp 12 .āp 96 11:46
To : Sarah Hargreaves
Subj : Re: QUARK!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> While waiting for MiniCon weekend, Quoshara heard, QUARK!
SH> Does anyone out there remember this classic? (Someone might of
SH> discussed it in this net at an earlier stage (or recently for that
SH> matter), but I couldnt be bothered looking) :).
SH> I was having a discussion about it the other day with some workmates,
SH> and we couldn't remember all the character names.. Quark (of course),
SH> Gene and Gene.. but thats all we could come up with (slack huh?).. can
SH> someone out there come to my rescue of sleepness nights of trying to
SH> remember the character names?
Ficus the alien plant person.
Palandrome - Quark's boss with the big head.
And, of course, Betty and Betty - the confused blond and her clone.
I had forgotten about Gene and Gene....thanks.
--Quoshara
... From now on I'm feeding the cat food that matches the carpet color.
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Msg : 39 of 249
From : The Raven 1:363/309 .pä 13 .āp 96 06:06
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : Gulliver's Travels
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
BL> If you ever wondered why people don't like you this is it. I don't
BL> think I've ever seen a single message from you that was even civil. If
BL> you the only way you interact with other people is to insult them,
BL> don't be suprised when people don't react positively to you.
I'm beginning to believe that Chris simply cannot help it. He's not
a Dixon or a Wolgast (who are insulting and unpleasant on purpose), but rather
is obtuse, ignorant, and offensive by way of an accident of genetics. He
is this way by nature, not by design, and cannot help himself.
Jack Butler
... The procrastinators annymous meeting was delayed.
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Msg : 40 of 249
From : The Raven 1:363/309 .pä 13 .āp 96 06:06
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
CO> So, i say that the human race are gutless COWARDS, and the animal
CO> kingdom should be the ones that rule this earth before we did.
NS> Cowards because they'd use anything they've got in the way of an
NS> advantage in order to stay alive? Hello? Are we on the same planet,
NS> here?
Ever read that Niven story... jeez... title escapes me. But it was one
of the Draco Tavern stories. A race of "honorable hunters" invites the
proprietor on a hunt; these hunts are supposedly made with only the weapons
evolution gives you... and the human finally makes the kill by bashing an
antelope with a bone because "his evolution included the club".
Jack Butler
... Vulgarity: The conduct of others.
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Msg : 41 of 249
From : ROBERT LIDGREN 1:134/10 .îí 11 .āp 96 22:19
To : ALL
Subj : SLIDERS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
It's nice to see Sliders is back! Last week's episode, featuring the
alternate world where men were in short supply, was handled fairly well. I
especially liked the fact that things were left a bit ambiguous w.r.t. whether
or not the characters did help out in the re-population project. It also
reminded me of the angst experienced by couples in the here-and-now who
desparately want children but, for medical reasons, are incapable of having
them the old fashioned way.
The ethical dilemnas were brought up. I especially liked the statement
by Quinn Malory that he didn't want to "father" a child and then not be around
to be a parent. What a refreshing change form the "love them and leave them"
approach which is seen TOO OFTEN.
I am not certain whether Arturo obliged and "helped out" but even his
attitude showed a degree of responsibility which is, I suppose, 180 degrees
away from, say, what James Bond would do in similar circumstances. I think his
expression was something like: "Oh my God!" when faced with having sex with his
female "guard," quite against his will. Being an occupant of such a "stud
farm" environment demonstrated that it would not be quite the Nirvana many
adolescents might imagine. But then, maybe one needs a bit of maturity and
life experience to see why this alternate world wouldn't be EVERYMAN'S cup of
tea.
It is a delight to see all of the original cast is back. BTW, my son
felt the first episode was very sad. I queried him about it and what made him
very sad was the fact that the crew did make it home momnetarily but made the
mistake of misinterpreting the "signs" and then "sliding" once more. For a
young man, I guess the thought of being separated from his family and friends
isn't necessarily appealing ad infinitim.
At any rate, it's good to see the "Sliders" cast back in action and
also delightful to see the scripts still do delve into some complicated issues
with a bit of "class" as well as the Sliders hallmark of good fun.
BTW #2: Did you notice how QUICKLY Quinn got over his bullet wound? I
wonder if "sliding" enhances the healing process?
Cheers, - Rob
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Msg : 42 of 249
From : Kim Wheat 1:275/102 .îí 11 .āp 96 19:58
To : Robert Paloutzian
Subj : Wayne Barlowe
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
---<<*<<< Robert dazzled Buc Wheat with these words of wisdom!! >>>**>>----
RP> I am looking for some info on Wayne Barlowe, a painter, illustrator,
RP> & visionary who has painted several covers for SF/Fantasy novels & also
RP> published two works of his own, Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials, &
RP> Expedition, not to mention a compilation of some of his work, called
RP> The Alien Life of Wayne Barlowe. He also released a line of collectible
RP> figures called Powerlords, in 1982. Anyway, I rather admire his work &
RP> was wondering if anyone could suggest a newsgroup or forum where I
RP> could get info on his other releases & discuss his work with others of
RP> like mind. I would appreciate any nudges in the right direction.
Hi Robert,
