Msg : 4 of 249
From : James Walton 1:129/260 .cę 10 .āp 96 11:20
To : Michael Harper
Subj : Starship Troopers
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
MH> Michael Ironside is in final negotiations to star in Paul
MH> Verhoeven's sci-fi action film _Starship Troopers_. Ironside
MH> last worked with Verhoeven on his hit sci-fi epic _Total
MH> Recall_.
Too old. Ironside is a poor choice.
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Msg : 5 of 249
From : Robert Paloutzian 1:214/80 .cę 10 .āp 96 04:49
To : All
Subj : Wayne Barlowe
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
I am looking for some info on Wayne Barlowe, a painter, illustrator, &
visionary who has painted several covers for SF/Fantasy novels & also published
two works of his own, Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials, & Expedition, not
to mention a compilation of some of his work, called The Alien Life of Wayne
Barlowe. He also released a line of collectible figures called Powerlords, in
1982. Anyway, I rather admire his work & was wondering if anyone could suggest
a newsgroup or forum where I could get info on his other releases & discuss his
work with others of like mind. I would appreciate any nudges in the right
direction.
Robert Paloutzian
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Msg : 6 of 249
From : ROBERT LIDGREN 1:134/10 .cę 10 .āp 96 00:17
To : ALL
Subj : REASONS FOR RULES
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Recently, I was reminded by NICOLAI SHAPERO, our MODERATOR, that "sigs."
are not allowed in this echo. I, naturally, followed the reminder. If I
might, though, I'd like to take the liberty of posting a relatively short
message I received from a local member about "WHY" needless "sigs." must be
avoided. Willie Smith did an excellent job describing why our moderator
intervened to "correct" me. If this message helps others, I trust it is not
"off topic." I certainly appreciated the "clarification."
I DIDN'T KNOW THESE THINGS AND MANY OF YOU MIGHT BE IN THE SAME SITUATION.
Hello Robert
Perhaps I can shed a little light on these stringent rules. Fidonet is a
series of Local BBS's, the Sysop's of which PAY the long distance charges to
receive the echoes. IF every message contained a SIG of only 6 lines with the
fancy ASCII lines etc etc......Then THAT message size would be overlly large
for the content of the message. NOW if all messages have these SIGS then the
packets of mail which are distributed by individual long distance calls would
get very large indeed in relation to the ACTUAL amount of information contained
in the messages. This results in greater L/D charges to each system which
handles the packets due to an increased transfer time.
I call Toronto every night for a packet of Fido Mail. With 2 or 3 messages
that packet is only about 2500 bytes. However with each message every time
having a SIG attached that packt might get to only 3000 bytes BUT the bottom
line would be that MY L/D charges over a year would be increased.
SIGS were outlawed in the Original Fidonet rules when the system was set up
and it has never been a popular suggestion to change the OLD WAYS. Mainly
because of the costs.
The SYSOP is responsible rule is simply a way of safeguarding the integrity
of an echo. Each echo is LITERALLY OWNED by the Moderator. They have ABSOLUTE
power over what is discussed in that echo. Now some guy in Timbuktoo has NO
CONTROL over what you so so he holds the sysop of the system you post from as
responsible. This way too many posts agi\ainst the rules, the moderator cuts
off the system. Therefore he has the control.
That's the way Fidonet works. There has to be some form of control.
Willie Smith
-----------------------
I better understand Nicolai Shapiro's "role" now and certainly have nothing but
respect for the way SFFAN is operated. I also APOLOGIZE for making the
mistake. -R.Lidgren
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Msg : 7 of 249
From : Michael Baker 1:108/430 .ķá 09 .āp 96 08:47
To : All
Subj : Files
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: FastEcho 1.40 8380
The Dead Zone at Has one of the Largest Sci-FI file areas you've ever seen!.
..tons of sound files, gifs, programs, 1960's themes ect. There are a couple
of ways you can get these files:
1. Call at 513-521-0705 and log on using " Guest " as your
name/handel...then " Guest " again for the password.
2. Freq " SF " for a file list of all the SF files, then freq
the " filename " to receive the files you want.
we are updating these files weekly and you should call/freq regularly to
get any updates, and if there is anything you want send me a message and
I'll look for the file for you.
The Dead Zone
1:108/430
Krall@one.net
... You should always carry protection. --Fox Mulder on voodoo charms.
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Msg : 8 of 249
From : Henry Triplett 1:106/564 .cę 10 .āp 96 23:12
To : KAY SHAPERO
Subj : Sliders is BACK!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
* Reply to msg originally in FIDO-SFF
-=> Quoting Kay Shapero to Tony Trujillo <=-
KS> On , Tony Trujillo (1:280/341) wrote to All:
TT>I haven't had a chance to watch it but I'm extremely happy
TT>to hear that SLIDERS (one of the best neatest little SF shows
TT>since QUANTUM LEAP) is back on the air. Are there any fans (other
TT>than Kay Shapero) of the show who'd like to discuss it?
KS> Gee thanks - don't want to talk to me do you? :->
KS> I agree btw - this is FUN. And like you I'm glad to see they're all
KS> back. The show just wouldn't be the same without any of them
KS> (especially JRD).
My wife despises the girl (Wade, I believe), though they seem to be
writing her to be more intelligent/less annoying this season. I think
the show might survive the loss of her, and/or possibly Quinn (curiously
enough). But without Professor Arturo or the Crying Man, they might
as well fold up
... Beam me up Scotty, it just ate my phaser!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]
--- GEcho 1.00
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Msg : 9 of 249
From : Jeroen Jacobs 2:292/506.26 .˙ō 08 .āp 96 23:43
To : Jon Helis
Subj : 'bugs' in ST: Generat
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Yow Jon !! Where the hell are you ??
Vrijdag Februari 23 1996 03:38, Jon Helis schreef naar Jeroen Jacobs:
JH> If you like stuff like this, you should pick up one of the
JH> Nitpicker's Guides, there's one for TOS and TNG. I have the TNG
JH> version, and it has some interesting stuff in it. Give it a try.
Great !! And where can I find those documents ??
Greetings from The Prince of Darkness,
Jeroen
-[PGP_ID=1F7602ED]-
...Number 6 of Borg - Why I resigned is irrelevant.
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Msg : 10 of 249
From : Henry Triplett 1:106/564 .îí 11 .āp 96 17:04
To : LAWRENCE E DUNLAP
Subj : weird tv
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
* Reply to msg originally in FIDO-SFF
-=> Quoting Lawrence E Dunlap to Henry Triplett <=-
LED> Astroboy's driving Speed Racer's car during confrontations with
LED> baddies possibly would have assisted Speed in doing bad guys in much
LED> less violently! :D
LOL!
LED> Wonderous were the infrequent gems of science fiction dramas and
LED> kidvid dramas in the early years of American SF on TV due to the space
LED> program. *Supercar* was fairly realistic as a Gerry Anderson adaption
LED> of an Robert A. Heinlein Tricar of his juvenile & adult novels and
LED> novellas of the 1950's and 1960's.
LED>
LED> *Fireball XL-5* presaged the winged/manned atmospheric reentry
LED> spacecraft of the 1990's and presaged interstellar flight in a kidvid
LED> way.
I remember both of those. Great stuff, back then!
LED>
LED> While *Astroboy* proved to be science fantasy, the level of thought
LED> required of a 10 year old about choices and values by Astroboy in his
LED> flights of mercy were and are rare in kidvid SF even today
Very rare. Interestingly enough, today's kids have much neater toys,
while we had much better shows.
HT>..."There he goes, ASTROBOY...."
LED> I wonder how much of Astroboy might be recycliable TV Science Fantasy
LED> now? Probably not because *Astroboy* and all such shows mentioned in
LED> our thread were very violent according to 1996 US and Candaian
LED> children's TV standards.
You're probably right.
... Ei 'Aaniigoo 'Ahoot'e -- The X-Files
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Msg : 11 of 249
From : Owen E. Oulton 1:243/45 .cę 10 .āp 96 18:50
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : 'bugs' in ST: Generations
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
TS> From what Guinan told Picard ("I never left the Nexus",
TS> I think), I'd say that there's still some part of Kirk
TS> and Picard remaining there, waiting to return when
TS> needed.
Actually, what she said was the the part of her in the Nexus was "an echo" and
that "I can't leave - I'm already out there." If there are such echoes of Kirk
and Picard still in the Nexus, they can't leave either, by logical extrapolation
of her statements.
CFN, O
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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Msg : 12 of 249
From : Owen E. Oulton 1:243/45 .cę 10 .āp 96 18:53
To : Don Bach
Subj : clarification
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
DB> Chris, Check your history book for Admiral Grace Hopper. You would not
DB> have a computer like you do now without her leadership.
That's right. She literally de-bugged the first computer, and apparently the
mashed remains of the moth which got caught in a mechanical relay are still
taped into the logbook.
CFN, O
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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Msg : 13 of 249
From : Marco Catalano 2:2802/152.3 .ķá 09 .āp 96 13:36
To : Frank Glover
