Subj : 'bugs' in ST: Generations
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Hello Frank!
Sunday March 03 1996, Frank Glover writes to Marco Catalano:
MC>> A probe
MC>> that small couldn't have warp capability.
FG> I don't know. The first apperance of Worf's girlfriend involved travel
FG> in a one-person warp-driven device of similar size, so there is a
FG> precedent.
Ah yes, that was in the episode "The Emissary" if memory serves correctly.
That makes it not a YATI I guess.
MC>> Let alone that, when the probe started to dampen the sun, it
MC>> immidiately became darker. An 'M' class planet or moon must be
MC>> several light-minutes away at mimimun. Like our own planet, the
MC>> sunlight takes about 8 minutes to reach us.
FG> Absolutely right on this one, though. To be neither too close or to far
FG> to be a Class-M world, and the speed of light in vacuum being the
FG> unalterable (even if surpassable) thing it is, they should've seen no
FG> change for, say, 8-12 minutes....
Grin, I guess Paramount didn't wanted to waste precious celluoid, Frank!
I can understand why Paramaount didn't want to make the audiance wait for so
many minutes without anything happening.
They could however have thrown in several more minutes of fighting between
Picard and Soran.
Or would that be overkill?
Greetings from Marco
BYE!
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Msg : 14 of 249
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .cę 10 .āp 96 14:41
To : Frank Glover
Subj : "Airborne" discussion
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Bill Clementsep was kicking back and telling sea stories until Inspector General
Frank Glover walked in and said, "Knock off with that 'BUGS' IN ST: GENERAT and
get back to work!" There was no choice but to shoot Frank.
BC>> evidence of flatulence might be noticeable. However, the odor
BC>> would indeed remain local to your suit. Isn't that a pity.
FG>
FG> But sooner or later, ya gotta come inside and take it off...!
I can see the reactions:
"Hey, I eat the same stuff you do; complain to the cook. That, and I've had to
deal with it for the last six (or whatever) hours. You've got no kick!"
Todd Sullivan
... At a seance, he who levitates is host.
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Msg : 15 of 249
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .cę 10 .āp 96 14:46
To : Barton Paul Levenson
Subj : TERAFORMING
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I was kicking back and telling sea stories until Inspector General Barton Paul
Levenson walked in and said, "Knock off with that TERAFORMING and get back to
work!" There was no choice but to shoot Barton.
BPL> I disagree. Mars, with its 0.38 g surface gravity, is perfectly
BPL> capable of holding a massive atmosphere against Jeans escape for
BPL> geologically long periods of time.
Possibly, but can humans adjust to the lower pressure? Just doing a bit of
quick-and-dirty (stipulated) math, .38 x 14.7 = 5.586 PSIA, or some such. It's
not even that thin atop the Andes, IIRC.
Anyone who lives there and adjusts will have to remain permanently; the
adjustments would be a bit radical, IMO.
Todd Sullivan
... 9 out of 10 priests prefer young boys to Doom.
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Msg : 16 of 249
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .cę 10 .āp 96 14:48
To : David Johnston
Subj : Teraforming
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I was kicking back and telling sea stories until Inspector General David
Johnston walked in and said, "Knock off with that Teraforming and get back to
work!" There was no choice but to shoot David.
DJ> Mars would lose air, true, but at a rate that would require no
DJ> corrective measures for thousands of years, if we could get it's
DJ> atmospheric pressure up to an acceptable level in the first place.
Ref: My reply to Barton.
Todd Sullivan
... "I am not even alive enough to know how to kill myself."
--Primo Levi at Auschwitz
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Msg : 17 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 11 .āp 96 00:35
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Alien threats?
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On (06 Mar 96) Nicolai Shapero wrote to John Arnold...
NS> I believe the title of the story was "LIKE BANQUO'S GHOST" or
NS> somesuch. The author was Larry Niven...and the aliens were
NS> interested in the remote sensor capabilities as well as the
NS> automation technologies. They blew up the probe when it was on
NS> the "far side" of their world, at or near point of closest
NS> approach...out of fear.
That's the one. And one of the aliens was on earth for the Big
Event (i.e., our receiving the last of the probe's signals before it
was destroyed, after the signal had spent years getting back to
earth). The aliens, who had FTL travel and horrifically advanced
sciences, had sent someone to earth after they discovered the probe.
They thought our probe was a remarkable achievement (quaint, perhaps,
but a very clever design given our backwardness).
The alien tried to play up the triumph we'd achieved by getting the
probe there at all...but having him here as a constant reminder of how
crude our technology was compared to theirs really put a damper on
things.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 18 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 11 .āp 96 00:39
To : Angela Smith
Subj : Octavia Butler
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On (09 Mar 96) Angela Smith wrote to All...
AS> Does anyone here read Octavia Butler?? What do you think of her
AS> Xenogenesis Series?? And does she have anything new coming out??
You bet! I read everything she writes. She has a vivid
imagination and writes extremely well (even though her sense of life
is really depressing). I didn't care for the Xenogenesis series when
I initially read it--but I've grown to really like it since then.
Her most recent novel (as far as I know) is PARABLE OF THE SOWER,
though I suspect the next novel in that series is due fairly soon.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 19 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 11 .āp 96 00:42
To : Frank Glover
Subj : 'bugs' in ST: Generations
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On (05 Mar 96) Frank Glover wrote to Bryan Malone...
FG> Maybe. The quoting got messed up along the way. I never objected to
FG> the fact that the Enterprise saucer section, and everyone on it were
FG> destroyed. The nature of the Nexus let Picard and Kirk come back just
FG> before that, and prevent it. I have no problem with an acknowledged
FG> change in the timeline. I think the other guy did, butI was responding
FG> to another part of his message....
That's not the point, I don't think.
As I see it, Picard is *still* in the Nexus. He never left.
The Nexus, basically, gives you what you want most. What Picard
wanted most was to save the Enterprise (and the world full of aliens).
So when he entered the Nexus, the Nexus *gave* him that. His version
of paradise is one in which HE, at least, has the moral strength to
turn his back on eternal bliss and struggle mightily--with the
greatest starship captain in history at his side!--to stop the villain
of the movie. So that's what he experienced.
...and is still experiencing.
Meanwhile, in the "real" world, the planet was destroyed, the
Enterprise and its crew were destroyed and everything we see in ST:TNG
from there on out is part of his fantasy....
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 20 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 11 .āp 96 00:49
To : Gary Warren
Subj : How does Catherine survive into new B&B miniseries??
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On (07 Mar 96) Gary Warren wrote to All...
GW> Just read in Bjo Trimble's SCI-FI SPOTLIGHT (formerly SPACE-TIME
GW> CONTINUUM) that a new 4-hr. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST miniseries (from
GW> the 1987-9 CBS fantasy show, not the Disney cartoon or other
GW> musical incarnation) is being planned. In it, Catherine (played
GW> again by Linda Hamilton?) is alive and recovered from her
GW> overdose injection by the mad doctor who delivered her and
GW> Vincent's kid.
GW>
GW> Fine and dandy. But will the writers come up with a dodge of how
GW> she survived her autopsy performed just after the aforementioned
GW> two-hour 1989 season debut? I'll be bumfuzzled if we're not
GW> subjected to another "Pam Ewing" dream (DALLAS) or another clone
GW> story (the projected ALIEN 4 movie).
What *I* would like to see is a Beauty & The Beast/Quantum Leap
cross-over miniseries. Sam Beckett leaps in to SAVE Catherine so that
she doesn't die in the first place! It would be GREAT!
I'm told that there's a fan-fiction version of this story floating
around, but I've never been able to get my hands on it.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 21 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 11 .āp 96 00:50
To : Tony Trujillo
Subj : Sliders is BACK!
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On (07 Mar 96) Tony Trujillo wrote to All...
TT> I haven't had a chance to watch it but I'm extremely happy
TT> to hear that SLIDERS (one of the best neatest little SF shows
TT> since QUANTUM LEAP) is back on the air. Are there any fans (other
TT> than Kay Shapero) of the show who'd like to discuss it? I was very
TT> pleased to hear that they were able to get all of the cast back for
TT> the new shows...especially JRD.
Right here! (Waves hand in air)
I'm happy to see it back on the air too. And happier still that
they seem to be taking the characters and situations more seriously.
The characters are thinking ahead now. They're more willing to take
action to protect themselves. It's good to see.
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 22 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 11 .āp 96 00:54
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : How does Catherine survive into new B&B miniseries??
