JW> MH> Michael Ironside is in final negotiations to star in Paul
JW> MH> Verhoeven's sci-fi action film _Starship Troopers_. Ironside
JW> MH> last worked with Verhoeven on his hit sci-fi epic _Total
JW> MH> Recall_.
JW>
JW> Too old. Ironside is a poor choice.
Too old to be which character?
Frank
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Msg : 53 of 249
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .pä 13 .āp 96 23:31
To : Marco Catalano
Subj : Re: help!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
MC> mo> to the future (400 years or so, I think). Everyone (or the
MC> majority) in
MC> mo> this future is gay or lesbian (even bi is considered a no-no)
MC> and in one
MC>
MC> Erm, just one (probaly stupid) question about this.
MC> How could mankind have survived?
You mised the part about cloning.....
MC> It does sounds like a rather interesting book however.
It is. I highly reccoomend The Forever War. But I'm still not sure this is
the story originally asked for. The main character, William Mandela isn't so
much `transported' into the future, as the means of interstellar travel they use
are a bit like the wormholes of DS-9. You can make big jumps across interstellar
space with them, but you still have to cross a number of light years at
relativistic speeds (and the time dilation that comes with that) to reach them.
Suppose you knew there was a wormhole at Alpha Centauri that would take you to a
point 10,000 lightyears away? Cool, but you still have to reach Alpha Centauri
first, at barely sublight speed. Then the star you *want* to go to is another
(say) 15 lightyears beyond the other end.
You can find yourself signifigantly out of step with events on Earth, but not
as bad as if there were no wormhole at all.
That's how a man with the sexual orientation of most of us ends up on an
Earth where homosexuality and cloning are the norm. (But the war still goes
on...)
(He knows some of his crew refers to him as "the old queer," but none are so
indiscreet as to do it where it can be heard. And there's an interesting scene
when he gets drunk with one of his female senior officers....)
Frank
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Msg : 54 of 249
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .pä 13 .āp 96 23:35
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Re: How does Catherine survive into new B&B miniseries??
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
NS> GW>1989 season debut? I'll be bumfuzzled if we're not subjected to
NS> GW>another
NS> GW>"Pam Ewing" dream (DALLAS) or another clone story (the projected
NS> GW>ALIEN 4
NS> GW>movie).
NS>
NS> Frankly, I'd just say "the whole last season didn't exist, it wasn't
NS> a dream...even a bad one...it just DIDN'T HAPPEN". Make for a lot
NS> more pleasant story, frankly...
Basically agreed, though it would mean throwing out that female police
detective. I found her rather interesting. Too bad we'll never know what the
writers had in mind for her....
Frank
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Msg : 55 of 249
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .pä 13 .āp 96 23:38
To : All
Subj : Where's Newt?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
(No, not THAT Newt!)
Does anyone know what became of the young actress Carrie Henn, who played
Rebecca `Newt' Jordan in `Aliens?' I don't think I've seen her in anything
else....
Frank
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Msg : 56 of 249
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .ōp 12 .āp 96 19:55
To : Mark Jones
Subj : 'bugs' in ST: Generations
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Frank Glover was kicking back and telling sea stories until Inspector General
Mark Jones walked in and said, "Knock off with that 'bugs' in ST: Generations
and get back to work!" There was no choice but to shoot Mark.
MJ> The Nexus, basically, gives you what you want most. What Picard
MJ> wanted most was to save the Enterprise (and the world full of aliens).
MJ> So when he entered the Nexus, the Nexus *gave* him that. His version
MJ> of paradise is one in which HE, at least, has the moral strength to
MJ> turn his back on eternal bliss and struggle mightily--with the
MJ> greatest starship captain in history at his side!--to stop the villain
MJ> of the movie. So that's what he experienced.
MJ> ...and is still experiencing.
MJ> Meanwhile, in the "real" world, the planet was destroyed, the
MJ> Enterprise and its crew were destroyed and everything we see in ST:TNG
MJ> from there on out is part of his fantasy....
The only thing that destroys this line of reasoning is Worf's assignment to DS9.
Todd Sullivan
... "Nothing is more damaging to a new truth than an old error." --Goethe
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Msg : 57 of 249
From : Brandon Wolgast 1:363/281 .pä 13 .āp 96 00:12
To : Jean.paul Wissink
Subj : All B5 Names
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
JW>Here in Holland we are currently in season 2 of Bab5. Is there an episode li
JW>available which covers *all* seasons from Bab5 up until the latest episode i
JW>the States ? Could someone mail me this list (netmail would be fine: don't
JW>attach it :-) ?
JW>It would be nice if it was something like the reviews that Tim Lynch did of
JW>ST:TNG and DS9.
I can't give a review on each, but since I do have them on tape and all
labeled I can't post them quickly so here goes:
Premier Episode:
The Gathering
Season One:
Midnight on the Firing Line
Soul Hunter
Born to the Purple
Infection
Parliament of Dreams
Mind War
The War Prayer
And the Sky Full of Stars
Deathwalker
Believers
Survivors
By Any Means Necessary
Signs and Portents
TKO
Grail
Eyes
Legacies
A Voice in the Wilderness part 1
A Voice in the Wilderness part 2
Babylon Squared
The Quality of Mercy
Chrysalis
Season Two:
Points of Departure
Revelations
The Geometry of Shadows
A Distant Star
The Long Dark
Spider in the Web
Soul Mates
A Race Through Dark Places
The Coming of Shadows
GROPOS
All Alone in the Night
Acts of Sacrifice
Hunter, Prey
There All the Honor Lies
And Now for a Word
In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum
Knives
Confessions and Lamentations
Divided Loyalties
The Long, Twilight Struggle
Comes the Inquisitor
The Fall of Night
Season Three:
Matters of Honor
Convictions
A Day in the Strife
Passing Through Gethsemane
Voices of Authority
Dust to Dust
Exogenesis
Messages from Earth
Point of No Return
Thats how far we are here in the states, the next episode is called,
"Severed Dreams," but has not been played yet. Hope this helped.
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Msg : 58 of 249
From : Brandon Wolgast 1:363/281 .pä 13 .āp 96 12:50
To : All
Subj : Generations Big Mistake
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
To everyone saying there are "bugs" in Generations, you are all correct,
but come on, the ENTIRE movie is a "bug." From Data's chip to Kirk's
death, to whatever. The main thing is the Nexus. Why didn't Kirk and
Picard just leave it days earlier to save the Enterprise, the station,
everything. They don't seem to mind altering time so why not just go
back to before the Borg came and stop it from happening. Also, Soran
achieved what he set out to do, HE IS IN the Nexus, so he "won"
basically. If Picard and Kirk leave that doesn't mean that HE is not in
it. Also, the echos of people seem to know what is going on in the real
world so the Picard in there will know everything that the Picard out
there knows, and well, you know.
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Msg : 59 of 249
From : Keith Stokes 1:280/5 .ōp 12 .āp 96 21:11
To : John Giannini
Subj : FILK MODERATOR
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE/2 1.2
* In a message originally to Kay Shapero, John Giannini said:
JG> RL>> What's the name of the FILK node? I certainly will drop in.
JG> KS> That's the FILK echo, the tagname is FILK, and it can be picked up off
JG> KS> the backbone in Zone 1. Hope you can join in the fun!
JG>it was the Starman echo that caused the problem). Now here
JG>is the moderator's wife(?) talking about (and inadvertainly
JG>advertising) another echo on *this* echo. Hmmm....
Wow that was an overpowering ad. I guess Kay just lost her head!
Perhaps we should talk about science fiction. Have you read anything lately? I
just started Robin Wayne Bailey's SHADOWDANCE. It looks
like this one is going to be VERY good.
Keith
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Msg : 60 of 249
From : Keith Stokes 1:280/5 .ōp 12 .āp 96 21:20
To : James Walton
Subj : Octavia Butler
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE/2 1.2
* In a message originally to Angela Smith, James Walton said:
JW> AS> Does anyone here read Octavia Butler?? What do you think of
JW> AS> her Xenogenesis Series?? And does she have anything new
JW> AS> coming out??
JW>I tried to read "Parable of the Sower." Yawn. Got about 1/3
JW>of the way through. Just couldn't get interested.
That is the only one of Octavia's novels that I have read, but I
thought it was fairly good. Perhaps a 7 on a 1-7 scale. I would of
given it a higher rating, but I thought that she tied it up to fast
and clean in the last few pages.
I'm not sure that it is SF. It is a little to close to being contemporary.
Keith
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Msg : 61 of 249
From : Owen E. Oulton 1:243/45 .pä 13 .āp 96 14:09
To : David Johnston
Subj : Starship Troopers
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> MH> Michael Ironside is in final negotiations to star in Paul MH>
-> Verhoeven's sci-fi action film _Starship Troopers_. Ironside MH> last
-> worked with Verhoeven on his hit sci-fi epic _Total MH> Recall_.
-> Too old. Ironside is a poor choice.
DJ> I doubt he'll have the real lead role. He'll be the Tough Daddy who
DJ> shows up so often in Heinlein.
