PA> system.
Well, I must say that *you* have much more faith in me than I do. My daughter
is only in 4th grade and she's already losing me at some points. Plus, she's
been dianosted as possibly have ADD....I'm not sure I would have the patience
to teach her if she *was* paying attention. I do know my limitations and am
aware of how much it would take.
PA> There was a 3 year-old in England back in '93 who enjoyed
PA> interacting with older children. When his mother took him to
PA> a mall, he walked away with 2 10 year-olds. Becoming bored
PA> with him, the 10 year-olds led him down by the railroad tracks
PA> and smashed his skull in with a rock. His body (or the remains
PA> thereof) was found 3 weeks later.
JH> But Phil, this has nothing to do with exposing children to a variety
JH> of backgrounds in a controlled school environment.
PA>
PA> Controlled school environment: A situation in which children
PA> are educated based on their maturity and current achievement
PA> levels.
PA> Day-schools and their like too often have the tendency to
PA> allow, and in some cases force, children to interact outside of
PA> their peer groups. The establishment of a "peer identity" is a
PA> vital part of the development of esteem and self-esteem.
Then again, if a child is forced to be restricted to one little peer group
just think of all the wonderful experiences she/he could be missing out on.
PA> Is a 'lone' parent *really* equipped to perform that function?
PA> No. The Day-care industry is proof of that.
JH> In what way? You're saying that because a child goes to day care that
JH> a lone/single parent is unable to teach them good moral values? I
JH> wouldn't send my child into a Day Care environment where I did not feel
JH> that they would teach my child the same type of values that I stressed
JH> at home. It would not be a resonable or responsible act.
PA> Ah! *You* feel that that would be unreasonable and
PA> irresponsible, but (by virtue of the fact that you have
PA> successfully wielded the computer technology necessary to
PA> carry on this discourse) you are a few notches above the
PA> 'status quo'.
PA> The sad truth of the matter is that there are those who assume
PA> that because an establishment is "licensed", said
PA> establishment is going to assume *ALL* the educational
PA> responsibility for the child.
This is true....I tend to forget that not all parents are quite so...well, I
really don't want to use the word "responsible" (It makes me sound awfully
pretentious...not to mention like a [gasp] grownup). And if I hear someone
tell me one more time, "Well, my parents did that to me as a kid and *I*
turned out alright." I'm gonna HURL!!
JH> Thanks, pal! I'll have to send for them both. Even though I may never
JH> use the technical one, I'd like to have it for reference. Do they
JH> charge for their catalogues?
PA> $10-15, I think... I just rang them the other day to have a
PA> price-list sent. They're apparently using the same catalogs
PA> that they'd issued in '88(!)
Oooooh, *real* up-to-date. |-)
--Quoshara
... Off-topic? Er...I know we started out on-topic...Wonder what happened.
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Msg : 115 of 284
From : Paul Goverts 1:2613/135 .pä 14 .åâ 96 14:07
To : Jon Helis
Subj : NOWHERE MAN
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Quoting Jon Helis to Paul Goverts <=-
JH> Our local NBC affiliate airs the show Sunday nights at 11.
JH> Unfortunately, I have to be at work Monday morning at 7:45 a.m.!
JH> I end up having to tape the show, which isn't always easy,
JH> since if sports airs on NBC, the show is delayed. With football
JH> season over, your FOX affiliate probably won't delay Nowhere Man
JH> anymore.
No, 12:30 was the NORMAL time they were showing Nowhere man.... But i
can't seem to find it anymore, they keep switching the schedules
around...
Paul
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Msg : 116 of 284
From : Jeroen Jacobs 2:292/506.26 .cę 11 .åâ 96 15:35
To : All
Subj : Hello !
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
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Yow All !! Where the hell are you ??
I'm Jeroen Jacobs and new on this area.I read a few messages, and I must say
it's very interesting (although I don't understand what women rights have to do
SF ?? ).
I live in Belgium....that's in Europe (in case you didn't know).
And these are my favorite SF-series:
- the X files.
- Star Trek : Deep Space 9
- Star Trek : The Next Generation
- Star Trek : Voyager
- The Outer Limits
Well, that's it for today...
If you have any questions, just ask ! :-)
Greetings from The Prince of Darkness,
Jeroen
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Msg : 117 of 284
From : Boris CDuke 2:463/2.22 .îí 19 .åâ 96 02:06
To : Jeroen Jacobs
Subj : Hello !
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Hi Jeroen!
JJ> I'm Jeroen Jacobs and new on this area.I read a few messages, and I must
JJ> say it's very interesting (although I don't understand what women rights
JJ> have to do SF ?? ).
Umghu... Welcome aboard.
JJ> I live in Belgium....that's in Europe (in case you didn't know).
Really? What is it Europe? Never heard before.
JJ> And these are my favorite SF-series:
JJ> - the X files.
JJ> - Star Trek : Deep Space 9
JJ> - Star Trek : The Next Generation
JJ> - Star Trek : Voyager
JJ> - The Outer Limits
I would recommend to try B5 and Red Dwarf (these two are my favourites).
JJ> Well, that's it for today...
Better tell what's going on in SF in Belgium in general. There'll be a
convention soon in Belgium (I'm not sure will it be Beneluxcon).
JJ> If you have any questions, just ask ! :-)
What's better Pepsi and Computer or Coke and Bike?
JJ> Greetings from The Prince of Darkness,
Bestest, Boris
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Msg : 118 of 284
From : Pavel Viaznikov 2:5020/185.9 .cę 18 .åâ 96 02:09
To : Gerry Normandeau
Subj : The Twelve Monkies
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Hi there, Gerry!
Tuesday February 06 1996 18:13, Gerry Normandeau wrote to All:
GN> Hi all. I have a real brain buster for you. I have recently
GN> watched the movie The Twelve Monkies. And I must say it was
[...]
GN> name of the movie that this film is based on? I remembur seeing
GN> it a long time ago on TVO's Magic Shadows with Elwy Yost. Now this
GN> dates me for those who remember! :)
GN> The film was from France. It was filmed as a series of still
GN> photos with a naration. All I can remembur is that it began
GN> with a little boy witnesing a runnung man being shot down, Then
GN> for some reason war brakes out, and the world is destroyed excep
GN> for a handfull of survivors. The hero of the film, who was the
GN> boy at the begining is scent back in time to try and stop what
GN> happened but like in the Twelve Monkies is shot down in front of the
GN> little boy he was. And ashe dies the movie ends.
GN> If any one can remembur this movie and its name please let me know!
- As far as I know, that was "Runway" (meaning the takeoff strip) by Crys
Marker, dated 1962. Sorry, I am not very sure of the original name since I saw
the movie several years ago and in Russian (in "Illusion", the Moscow old
movies
theatre. I know how it was called by the synchro-translator - and that was the
"Takeoff strip" (the movie begins and ends on the airfield), but I am not sure
of the original name of the film). I still remember those stills: the death of
Paris, with evaporating, still by still, Tour d'Effel; and that future where we
only can see faces covered with big spectacles or masks, and very interesting
light effects.
Did this help?
Yours, Pavel
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Msg : 119 of 284
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .åō 15 .åâ 96 20:24
To : Jon Helis
Subj : Re: SLIDERS/ANY NEWS?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
JH> FG> I keep hoping that they'll come back with a special or two and
JH> tie
JH> FG> up loose ends, like Alien Nation has. But, as you say, it didn't
JH> run
JH> FG> long enough to get anything like Alien Nation's base of fans.
JH>
JH> Alien Nation only ran for one season, that was enough to build
JH> up the fan base. How long did VR5 run?
Hmm. Eight episodes or so? I think that's pretty close.....
Frank
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Msg : 120 of 284
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .åō 15 .åâ 96 20:28
To : Owen E. Oulton
Subj : Re: Star Trek Generations
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
OE> FG> BTW, having just wacthed ST: Generations this afternoon, does
OE> anyone
OE> FG> know who the older gentelman was who played the
OE> FG> Enterprise-B's communications officer? He *looked* for
OE> FG> allthe world like former astronaut Pete Conrad (who
OE> Yep. He's identified as Com Officer, and was played ny Thomas
OE> Kopache.
Great! Thanks!
Frank
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Msg : 121 of 284
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .åō 15 .åâ 96 21:08
To : Owen E. Oulton
Subj : Re: Star Trek Sexism
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
OE> BPL> The situation in the last episode of the third season of the
OE> original,
OE> BPL> where women per se were not allowed to command starships, is
OE> immoral.
OE> BPL> (And also showed a serious failure of imagination on Gene
OE> Roddenberry's
OE> BPL> part.)
OE>
OE> Gene wasn't really involved with the show at all at that point. Gene
OE> had had a woman as XO of the Enterprise in his original pilot -
OE> remember Number One? Since the XO of a ship succeeds to command if
Yep. NBC wanted him to dump her, and `the guy with the ears.' He was at least
able to keep Spock.
Still, it's a shame we didn't actually see a woman commanding a Federation
starship (`The Enterprise Incident' shows that Romulans have no qualms!) until
the opening scenes of Star Trek IV.
