to see how he's come. But overall, I was tweeked enough that I want
to watch the next episode. :>
KW> Re: V'ger
KW> Is it me, or are the Klingons turning into wimps??? I mean, I
KW> always knew Worf was a puff....but in the last DS9 episode, Kira
KW> whips their butts???!! What the heck is going on in the Empire??!
KW> These are the dudes that sit around in pubs and knock each other out
KW> with their heads....for FUN, even!!! I tell ya....if I was that
KW> "warrior", I'd not have the hon-hok-a's to walk around that ship with
KW> head held high!! Tis truly a dark time for the ol' Empire!
CL> YEAH! I'm glad someone else see's it too! I figured it was because
CL> Worf was raised with humans...I gave him that much benefit of the
CL> doubt....but here lately, those Klingons are nothing but
CL> wussies....I'm willing to bet that even Quark could take one
CL> out...without cheating...
Sad to see...the Cardassians aren't really that *imposing* to me,
ever since they were introduced....and the Romulans...well gotta
admit it here...ever since TNG, I have never liked their costumes...
you can't take a dude seriously when he's wearing what looks like
a potatoe sack for a shirt! The Klingons were always a true
Warrior caste, based on a combination of American Indian heritage
and a Kzin society....but since they teamed up with the Federation
something has changed...and it's a change I don't like! Borg...
we got Win95 for them....they pretty much have been neutralized as
a viable threat.
Even the guys who work for the Dominian....names escapes me, haven't
filled this niche! We need a truly Predator/Kzin/Alien type race
that will really kick some Federation butt!!
KW> Saw the next episode V'ger previews....heart beat when up when I
KW> heard the clip where Janeway sez, "Start the self-destruct sequance."
KW> But I imagine my luck ain't THAT good! :>
CL> I kinda liked it....I thought the computer arguing with itself was
CL> pretty funny. The next one is the one that I think will be
CL> interesting....The return of Q and all...And Jonathan Frakes is
CL> appearing too....
Even I might watch this episode on Monday. I've never liked Q, myself.
Think the writers made a big mistake with this character. Never, ever
have a 'Superman' type character on the show!!! The only way to have
interesting plots that don't repeat themselves endlessly is to remove
his powers..and then he's no longer Q! And if he keeps his powers,
then it's just a rehashed story! Stupid move to have come up with this
guy!
If Q appears on V'ger...then why isn't the show finished then?? He
simply pops them back to Fed space and everyone goes home. This won't
happen, of course....but I bet you the reasons this doesn't take place
won't be satisfactory. Therefore, once again, it'll prove that this
character just doesn't work as a viable plot device.
Kim :)
... Theatre is life. Film is art. Television is furniture.
--- GEcho 1.00
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Msg : 156 of 284
From : Kim Wheat 1:271/285 .ķá 17 .åâ 96 14:27
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
---<<*<<< Nicolai dazzled Buc Wheat with these words of wisdom!! >>>**>>----
KW> And have no idea why I always thought Nicolai was Kay's
KW>SISTER??!!
KW> Could I throw myself on the court and exclaim that 'Nicolai' is
KW> much to close to 'Nicole' and for some unscientific reason the
KW> brain always pronounced it 'Nicole'??!
NS> One man deserves the credit,
NS> One man deserves the blame,
NS> And Nicolai Invanovitch Lobatchevskii is his name,
NS> HAI!
NS> N. Lobatchevskii was a mathematician in the latter part of the 19th
NS> century. A male mathematician. Remember it that way.
NS> Cheers,
Don't worry, Nicolai....the correct gender is NOW quite firmly placed
in my gray matter!! I thought of you on the 14th when I read
my Internet E-mail and discovered a very nice Valentine poem in my
box....from 'John'!
Of course I took immense delight in replying, in poem form of course,
his slight mistake:
He (names changed to protect the innocent) came across my name on
the apf (Pratchett) echo..(for those familiar with Discworld)....
> Kim I read all of your posts,
> That you put out on the net,
> And if we ever were to meet,
> Sweet music we would make, I'd bet.
> So as sure as the Turtle moves,
> And you are sweet and fine,
> I'll ask you now with open heart,
> Will you be my Valentine?
John, I opened my mail and saw this surprise,
A lovely and witty poem did assault my eyes.
Sweet music sounds neat,
You, and I, and a turtle named Pete!
But one problem, I see, might come to the fore...
Before flowers you buy, and arrive at my door.
A small, minute detail I bring out in this tale....
Yes, my first name is Kim...but, alas, I am male!
Kim :)
... Sheesh, Dad could've named me 'Puff'!! :>
--- GEcho 1.00
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Msg : 157 of 284
From : Kim Wheat 1:271/285 .ķá 17 .åâ 96 14:40
To : Barton Paul Levenson
Subj : Star Trek Sexism
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
---<<*<<< Owen dazzled Buc Wheat with these words of wisdom!! >>>**>>----
BPL> The situation in the last episode of the third season of the original,
BPL> where women per se were not allowed to command starships, is immoral.
BPL> (And also showed a serious failure of imagination on Gene Roddenberry's
BPL> part.)
Hi Barton,
Until one remembers the society restraints at the time Gene first
produced ST, and the flack he got over a female Number One?
Another thing that everyone seems to have forgotten is the number
of female Admirals in Starfleet....especially in TNG. It seemed for
a while there that you HAD to be female to be an admiral!!
And one supposes....in order to become an Admiral, one had to spend
a certain amount of time as a Captain first. So I suppose there are
a heck of alot of female captains sitting in the 'big chair' on
Star ships out there, behind the scenes.
Kim :)
... ÷×Đ ÎåswĐō ÷ũ ĀËßĐ, ÷×Đ öåívĐōsĐ, Īåd ūvĐōØ÷×íåg
--- GEcho 1.00
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Msg : 158 of 284
From : Dave MacLean 1:259/536 .ķá 17 .åâ 96 19:59
To : All
Subj : Sci fi
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
hi everyone i have to things to say 1 is I am part of a club that meets monthly
in downtown Toronto we discuss trek, b5, star wars & xfiles. we also do things
in the community if think u might want to join our group or want more info.
message me. my 2nd message is i am process of writing a trivia book on st-tng &
i need help if u want to help or have questions in regard to the book feel free
to message me. hope to hear from some of u.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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Msg : 159 of 284
From : Michael Baker 1:108/430 .ķá 17 .åâ 96 16:55
To : All
Subj : Files
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: FastEcho 1.40 8380
The Dead Zone at Has one of the Largest Sci-FI file areas you've ever seen!.
..tons of sound files, gifs, programs, 1960's themes ect. There are a couple
of ways you can get these files:
1. Call at 513-521-0705 and log on using " Guest " as your
name/handel...then " Guest " again for the password.
2. Freq " SF " for a file list of all the SF files, then freq
the " filename " to receive the files you want.
we are updating these files weekly and you should call/freq regularly to
get any updates, and if there is anything you want send me a message and
I'll look for the file for you.
The Dead Zone
1:108/430
Krall@one.net
... Borger King: Your way is irrelevant.
--- Blue Wave v2.12
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Msg : 160 of 284
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 12 .åâ 96 22:11
To : The Raven
Subj : Bred to Conquer
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (10 Feb 96) The Raven wrote to Mark Jones...
TR> Well, to each his own... I have the same exact reaction to a
TR> bunch of writers, and have been called on it by folks here and
TR> around more than once. (You should have seen the reaction people
TR> had to my opinions on Tolkein... you'd have thought I took a dump
TR> on the Mona Lisa.)
I know the feeling. I don't think I could wade through Lord Of The
Rings again, though I really enjoyed it at the time.
So--who else *do* you dump on? I'll show you mine....
Alan Dean Foster, as I already mentioned. I used to read his
stuff, but I don't any longer. He lost me when he published
SPELLSINGER and I just never went back.
C. J. Cherryh. By all accounts she is popular with both the
critics and the public. Which probably means that she's a good
writer. And certainly what I know of her stories *sounds* good. But
I've tried many times to read some of her stuff and I just can't. It
feels like hacking my way through the jungle with a machete (it was,
in fact, her writing that led me to that description).
Stephen R. Donaldson. I don't read his stuff. I *never* read his
stuff. So while it may seem that I'm breaking a cardinal rule--never
review a book you haven't read--plenty of friends have panned his
writing. And these are friends with tastes I a) know, and b) agree
with; I feel no need to burn myself on that oven just to be *sure* it
will burn me. [Sadly, these friends all say he writes very well--its
just that his "heroes" are pathetic creatures who invariably lack a
backbone.]
--- PPoint 1.78
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Msg : 161 of 284
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .˙ō 16 .åâ 96 00:15
To : Anders Danebo
Subj : Cybersex
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (11 Feb 96) Anders Danebo wrote to Bianca Wesslak...
AD> I belive the SciFi conference is ment to be used for serious
AD> Science Fiction discussions and one can not get serious when sex
AD> is involved..If one wants sex (cyber or not) then why not just
AD> get some..To talk about it is only boring and non
AD> interesting...THink about it and you will know what i mean..
The conference is meant for discussion of all facets of SF (unless
they're ruled off-topic by Nicolai), including cybersex.
One can discuss sex without being a lonely boy, you know. The
possibility of virtual sex is a perfectly plausible idea, and one that
*does* have a connection to SF. The film BRAINSTORM (from the 70's),
for instance, played with the notion.
Discussing it is only boring if you're not interested in how it
