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station that you support Babylon 5.  Just tell me the city and state that the
TV station is locate that you receive your B5 broadcasts from, and I will supply
you with the address.

Thank you for your willingness to write and show your support for B5.  Maybe we
can demonstrate enough B5 support that next year B5's renewal will become a
foregone conclusion!!!  Ry

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 Msg  : 351 of 384
 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .cź 04 .žķ 95 00:34
 To   : Steven Wirsz
 Subj : B5 Ripoff: Ds9
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

SW> ST:TOS - Man will survive through resourcefulness
SW> ST:TNG - Socialist Utopias (The "enlightened" Federation) will save the

             universe SW> ST:DS9 -   ""

SW> ST:Voy -   ""

SW> B5     - Got two or three pages to spare??


Excellent summary!

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 Msg  : 352 of 384
 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .cź 04 .žķ 95 00:40
 To   : Frank Eva
 Subj : B5 Catch-Up
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

FE> RY "You are right about this.  To make the point more
FE> RY poignant for my son, "where are the micro-machines?"
FE> Yes, that's the same thing. Is the series popular enough to warrant a
FE> line of B5 toys? With the threat of cancellation looming over the show,
FE> I don't think anyone will find this license a safe investment...

It is fortunate that dreams do take form and become reality.  Babylon 5 has been
renewed for season 3 and Micro-Machines have produced 4 sets of B5 models.  Of
course this is only fraction of the number of Trek Micro-Machines, but it is a
healthy start!  What I feared is that JMS would put a kabosh on the whole deal
with his view that marketing and fanchising can be demeaning -- one of the
messages found in one of the recent episodes.  I think this is a very good sign
that we will see all 5 years of Babylon 5.  Ry

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 Msg  : 353 of 384
 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .cź 04 .žķ 95 01:01
 To   : Brian Henderson
 Subj : B5 Ripoff: Ds9
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

BH> Go to any Toys-R-Us for the Micro Machines.  They are *VERY* nice (I have
BH> all four sets). And yes, JMS is very bothered by the way the Star Trek
BH> Marketing Machine works and has vowed to have B5 stand alone, not just BH>
BH> be a vehicle to sell action figures and toys. I admire someone who can stand
BH> up for their principles like that rather than sell out to the highest
BH> bidder.

I really appreciate this post.  I will head out there ASAP.  My son's birthday
is coming up an this will be perfect timing!  Considering the detail on the Trek
and Star Wars Micro Machines, I expect the B5 ones to be made with as much eye
to detail.

As for your words about JMS and marketing, we will have to see as Frand Eva
says.  If we see Lando dolls and B5 bears, we will know that someone has sold
out or lost control of the licensing.

BH> Well, considering that both UPN and WBN have dumped their entire
BH> programming lineup (except for Voyager and DS9, natch), I don't think

This is laughable.  So, you mean to tell me that VOYAGER Q&A did not save the
UPN line-up like they thought it would?  It shows that Trekkers are not as rabid
as Paramount was banking on them to be.

As for one show, Platypus Man, I liked that show and watched it when it came on
after Voyager.  Once they moved it a half hour a way, I did not follow it,
for I am a rabid Kelley fan and switche to CHICAGO HOPE.  Of course I do not
think it would matter now, considering I do not even watch Voyager regularly at
this period in time.

Thanks again for this post.  Ry

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 Msg  : 354 of 384
 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .cź 04 .žķ 95 01:04
 To   : Brian Henderson
 Subj : B5 Talk
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

BH> Screen Actor Guild rules demand that if the actor is in a certain number
BH> of episodes (I think it is 12, but am probably wrong), they BH> must be
BH> pictured in the opening credits.

Brian, What I want people to comment on is that Richard Biggs is not listed as a
headliner star.  It says "also starring."  I want him elevated to "Starring" an
to appear in as many episodes as possible.  Ry

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 From : Chris Carter                        1:105/302.23    .cź 04 .žķ 95 01:34
 To   : Jeff Hancock
 Subj : Vorlon Immortality
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

 CC> Hot off the 'Lost Scenes' webpage at Hyperion,

 JH> Cool. Any more of these you could share?

I suppose.  But when will the right context come up in which to post
this stuff?  Should I just start posting lost scenes from B5 until I
run out?

 CC> "I've looked upon the face of a Vorlon, Laurel...and nothing's
 CC> the same anymore."

 JH> So they have faces, at least to human observers. Hmm.

But is the face referred to literal, (like the face of a corporeal
being) or the Doctor speaking in a more figurative sense?  I'm
inclined to believe that latter, myself.

 CC> Not exactly *revealing*, but at the very least, we know that
 CC> folks who see Kosh don't come away from the experience
 CC> unchanged.

 JH> Heck, we knew that from Delenn. 

Oook!

 JH> I think they're going to see what they think of as God... how
 JH> JMS will show that so that the viewers will visualize that
 JH> without making it overobvious and/or cheesy, I dunno.

I certainly have no clue on this either.  But I don't underestimate
Straczynski's ability to do it well.

As long as Vorlons don't look like that thing at the center of the
galaxy from Star Trek 5, I'll be forgiving.

Chris - carter@teleport.com


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 From : Mark Jones                          1:105/302.47    .cź 04 .žķ 95 02:56
 To   : Jeff Schlenker
 Subj : White Dwarf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (30 May 95) Jeff Schlenker wrote to Sean McCormick...

 JS> Well, I must admit that I just couldn't get into it.  After about 45
 JS> minutes, I shut the tape off.  I don't know, maybe I missed something,
 JS> but to me it was generally boring.

It wasn't just you.  It *was* incoherent, implausible and boring.

It looked to me like the writers thought that science fiction is
anything that involves a) other planets, b) weird gadgetry (like
"tissue gloves"), c) preposterous animals, and d) plots that are
incomprehensible (expecting the audience to simply go along with the
gag, like the emperor's new clothes).


... Power corrupts, and absolute power... is absolutely divine!

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 From : Tony Trujillo                       1:280/9         .cź 04 .žķ 95 02:57
 To   : Kay Shapero
 Subj : Re: Sliders Continuity
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+

 KS>> ...lose the dog
 TT>>I wouldn't have even considered taking the dog with
 TT>>me when his barking gave away Wade's position
 KS> Ditto.

Dear Quinn and Company,
                         Hate you
                         Took the "slide" box
                         Find your own way back home
                                                    -- Henry

 KS> until I heard the show had been cancelled.

That's really going to put a crimp on the folks who were
trying to get a Fidonet SLIDERS echo going. That's one thing
about starting a echo based on a single television series is
that when it goes off the air you're stuck for conversation.
I have a fear that will happen to MST3K (the echo I
"moderate") but at least we get a season 7 (shortened season
however) and a movie that should be coming out sometime by
the end of this year.

All in all it should make for a interesting year for MST3K.


... Honest, Officer! The dwarf was on fire when I got here!
--- Via Silver Xpress V4.02B03 SW01177
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 Msg  : 358 of 384
 From : Mark Jones                          1:105/302.47    .cź 04 .žķ 95 03:05
 To   : Frank Eva
 Subj : Torres in Faces
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (01 Jun 95) Frank Eva wrote to Mark Jones...

 MJ> The story about B'Lanna being split into her Klingon and Human
 MJ> halves is the sort of "technobabble" I can accept. The notion of
 MJ> splitting her into two separate beings is as unlikely as
 MJ> everything else they've done--but I was willing to grant the
 MJ> premise in order to see how the character dealt with the problem.
 FE>
 FE> Except that it had already been done before in ST:TOS' The Enemy
 FE> Within. To me, that is unacceptable...

It would have *been* acceptable (to me, anyhow, and possibly even to
you) if they had LEFT her that way.  If B'Lanna had been *permanently*
transformed into a mere human, her Klingon self dead dead dead...that
would have made it worthwhile.  We could have had many, many episodes
worth of angst.

She'd have had to recreate her identity from ashes.  How much of what
she had been was genetic, and how much environmental?  How much of the
traits she admires (in herself and in others) were *solely* the
product of her Klingon half, and which weaknesses?  And can she find
the resources in what's left to recreate those admirable qualities?
What previously unexpressed weaknesses would she suffer, now that the
Klingon persona was gone forever?

THIS would have been new ground.  Kirk was split in half, true--but
only temporarily.  B'Lanna could have been forced to live with the
transformation forever.  It would have been a great episode.

Instead, of course, they made sure she was completely restored to the
status quo by the next episode.  Blech!


... Ex Unu, Plurus (From One, Many) - This option looks better every day!

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 Msg  : 359 of 384
 From : Mark Jones                          1:105/302.47    .cź 04 .žķ 95 03:14
 To   : Pamela Crossett
 Subj : Earth 2 & HIGHLANDER
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (01 Jun 95) Pamela Crossett wrote to Gloria Darcy...

 PC> I am looking forward to the season finale's second part tonight.
 PC> Although I bet we're left hanging somehow. (here's a nother reason to
 PC> hate Dallas - "who shot JR" really made everyone step up the series
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