DJ> other who is now a vampire. Given it's sources, one can expect it to
DJ> be moody and emotional, with sexual undertones.
Wow. Are you kidding?
Of course, it won't stay true to VTM I'm sure, but that will be neat to see.
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Msg : 322 of 384
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .óį 27 .ąé 95 09:45
To : Richard Yamagata
Subj : B5 RIPOFF: DS9
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
RY>* In a message originally to Jakc Butler, Brian Henderson said:
RY>BH> No kidding. I didn't say otherwise. I did say, however,
RY>BH> that B5 has a higher purpose than *JUST* making a quick buck.
RY>I do not know if this is true or not, but I would like to think that it is t
RY>for B5. From the amount of energy that JMS expends by posting on GEnie and
RY>CIS, I believe that B5 means much more to him than a meal ticket. My son
RY>is waiting for his B5 micro-machines, but from what I garner from JMS posts,
RY>seems JMS finds this type of marketing, demeaning.
He finds what type of marketing demeaning?
We all know that JMS has said that B5 will "never be a franchise", but
in fact there's already books, and comics, and in the first book, an add
for mugs and t-shirts.
So what type of marketing is it that JMS finds demeaning? Just the
toys?
RY>BH> out but that's not the issue, is it? For Paramount and the
RY>BH> makers of Star Trek, money is the biggest issue. For Warner, it quite
RY>BH> possibly might be.
RY>All I know is that from looking at the Nielsens, the Paramount Network's
RY>success is all owed to ST Voyager. I think that the ST Voyager Q&A was a ch
RY>ploy to get Voyager fans to sit through hours of vapid programming just to f
RY>the Q&A sequence. I think this supports your arguement about "selling
RY>grandma." As for Warner, their network ratings are lower than Fox and
RY>Paramount. How much lower and non-profitable can you get? It may be a
RY>blessing that B5 is syndicated an not a Warner Network offering. Ry
If the WB Network had even one decent show, they might be doing better.
If the PTEN shows were pulled from syndication and moved to the WB
Network, they'd have a bunch of shows with pre-built audiences that
could then be seen in something resembling "prime time" - it would
probably be a win all around.
As for trying to get fans of one show to sit through the following
shows, by various devices, that's not "selling grandma" - that's normal
network marketing. The other networks aren't currently doing this
particular version of it, but they have in the past.
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Msg : 323 of 384
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .óį 27 .ąé 95 09:45
To : Frank Eva
Subj : VOYAGER NOSE DIVING?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FE>I wouldn't complain about Neelix if he didn't seem to always be employed
FE>as Barclay was in TNG. Of all the characters, I find the holo-doc the
FE>most interesting. Perhaps it's because he seems to be more of an "adult"
FE>(even though he's probably quite childlike when it comes to
FE>understanding the human condition) than the rest of the crew who seem to
FE>be fresh out of the academy and just barely beyond puberty. I really
FE>dislike how demographics is having such a profound effect on TV...
Frank, the demographics of the Voyager crew are the normal demographics
of a naval ship - except that the average age of the Voyager crew may in
fact be a tad HIGHER than in "real life".
Note that in TOS, the junior officers we did see were also young -
Chekov, Sulu, Rand. etc.
The officers on B5 are older, because that's a diplomatic post with lots
of tensions just below the surface.
The demographics on both Voyager and B5 are reasonable for the
story/setting each of the series has.
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Msg : 324 of 384
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .óį 27 .ąé 95 09:45
To : Richard Yamagata
Subj : B5 VS ST
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
RY>On the other hand, it may not be surprising. That long narrative by Delenn
RY>about the Shadows, the First Ones, the Vorlons, drove me MAD!!! I played th
RY>sequence over and over -- TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MIRA WAS MUMBLING. It i
RY>rediculous that she could not ennunciate better. I do not think it was a
RY>directional ploy to heighten suspense.
RY>The only thing that let me understand what Mira muffed was a transcript of t
RY>part of the episode. I think that this narrative was as critical to the
RY>B5 plot line as the dialog between Sheridan and Kosh about "understanding."
Strangely, I had no difficulty understanding or following Ms. Furlan's
speech. Perhaps I simply have a better tv than you do - though that
seems unlikely, given how OLD the wretched thing is.:)
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Msg : 325 of 384
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .īķ 29 .ąé 95 13:25
To : Barry Blaes
Subj : NOT SLIDERS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
BB> JK> Personally, I'm more concerned at this point with keeping BABYLON
BB> JK> 5 on the air. And getting to see the last four episodes of Season
BB> JK> Two before October, whereas the Europeans are going to be seeing
BB> JK> them any time now.
BB>Din't see any thing on the internet for B5, but, then again I'm not reading
BB>any B5 stuff.
There's rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5. And an alt. topic on B5, and at least
one web page. And a mailing list. And archives available.
[Can you tell I just recently got access to newsgroups and the WWW ?:)]
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Msg : 326 of 384
From : Ralph Strauser 1:105/314 .pä 31 .ąé 95 09:45
To : Jeff Hancock
Subj : Confessions & Lamentation
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
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FE>1. I noticed that the Markab spacecraft was not being towed with
FE>grapples, but that Starfuries had attached themselves to the hull of
FE>the vessel and were using their own thrusters to move the ship.
JH> Are you sure? It looked to me as if they had attacked their grapples
JH> to parts of the ship.
JH> BTW, in Knives, do you think that knob on the rear was put there for
JH> the express purpose of towing Starfuries like that?
Sounds like typical Military Redundency. Shoot you ever notice that
most military rigs have a pto connection on the back axle and the
front of the tranny?
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Msg : 327 of 384
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .pä 31 .ąé 95 18:12
To : Lawrence Heinke
Subj : THE KLINGONS VS THE BORG!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
> EC-> But the Romulans and Cardassians and Klingons didn't have
> anything ca
> -> beating the Borg either -
LH> Wrong!!! The Klingons have a weapon that could be lethal to the
> Borg. The weapon could easily defeat them. It is called Blood Seed.
> I forget the episode but in TNG all of some planets lifeforms were
> being eradicated. The Enterprise was on some goose-chase looking for
> DNA. The Klingons had beaten them there, got the DNA and, destroyed
> the planet with Blood Seed a life devouring plasma. The Klingons
> could fire it at the Borg, the Borg would see it as not a threat, it
> would thereby destroy all DNA and render the ship inert. Klingons 1
> - Borg 0!
Of course, you're wrong.
The Federation and the Cardassians and the Romulans can ALL fairly easily
destroy all life on a \planet\. "Life-devouring plasma" is a good description of
most any of their energy weapons.
What none of them can do is generate enough power in those weapons to break
through the Borg shields and do significant damage to the Borg ships.
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Msg : 328 of 384
From : Ecarey 1:101/230 .åņ 01 .žķ 95 11:26
To : Frank Eva
Subj : B5 CATCH-UP
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
> RY "FE> This would be nice but it would require a company like Simon
> &
> RY "FE> Schuster to envision a profit for such a series of books. I
> RY "FE> personally think there are few publishers who would consider
> RY "FE> such a series profitable at this early stage, with B5 still
> a
> RY "FE> somewhat unproven commodity...
>
> RY "You are right about this. To make the point more poignant for
> my
> RY "son, "where are the micro-machines?"
>
FE> Yes, that's the same thing. Is the series popular enough to warrant
> a
> line of B5 toys? With the threat of cancellation looming over the
> show,
> I don't think anyone will find this license a safe investment...
FWIW, I talked to the program director at WSBK, the station that carries B5 in
the Boston market, and she said that B5 HAS been renewed. This is not the same
level of reliability as getting the information direct from Warner/PTEN, but it
surely means something, that WSBK expects to have B5 in its fall line-up.
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Msg : 329 of 384
From : Cmcdonough 1:101/230 .åņ 01 .žķ 95 20:05
To : Myranya Werlemann
Subj : DIRECTORIAL TRADEMARKS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
MW> JB> Lucas's trademark is the numbers 1138. They appear in every one
MW> JB> of his films *somehow*.
MW> [ ]
MW> That's really interesting. Do you know _why_ it's 1138?
His first film was *THX-1138*
/s/ Craig
(or was it *TXH-1138*?)
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Msg : 330 of 384
From : Cmcdonough 1:101/230 .åņ 01 .žķ 95 20:57
To : Ecarey
Subj : ST: VOYAGER SURVIVES
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
