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Overquoting a message from James Walton to Denis Lamy...

JW> Think about it.  "These are the voyages of the Starship
JW> Enterprise..."
JW> A spacestation doesn't voyage, it sits and waits for something to
JW> happen.  And the spacestation wasn't even built by/for the
JW> Federation!
JW>

     Well they can still have Avery Brooks voicing over something to the extent
of "...as we stand guard at the gateway to the gamma quad..."  But I would think
that kind of gimmicky voice over would just be that a gimmick...

JW> As far as Voyager goes, I have never seen it, but since the show
JW> isn't about a planned trip, not too much can be said.
JW>

     And the same could be said for Voyager "...as we continue our journey
home..."  And once again it would sound like they were just trying to cash in on
the success of ST:TOS and ST:TNG...


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 Msg  : 266 of 384
 From : Mark Jones                          1:105/302.47    .ōp 30 .āé 95 21:37
 To   : Earl Green
 Subj : SLIDERS SEASON FINALE
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (28 May 95) Earl Green wrote to Frank Eva...

 EG> You do have to admit, though, Rhys-Davies was a BIG part of that
 EG> show's appeal. I most emphatically did NOT like Quinn or Wade
 EG> when the show started up; I got to where I liked Wade two or
 EG> three episodes in, and I was finally starting to like Quinn just
 EG> as they offed him. But Arturo and Rembrandt had me hooked - if
 EG> not for them, I wouldn't have stuck around for the first hourly
 EG> episode. 

Really?  I wanted nothing from that show so much as to see Rembrandt
die an exquisitely painful and prolonged death.  (When he was being
taken to the "Municipal Processing Center" in the last episode for
execution, I was *cheering* the cops.)


... "A democracy in which votes are not secured by arms is a farce." H. B. Piper

--- PPoint 1.78
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 Msg  : 267 of 384
 From : Mark Jones                          1:105/302.47    .ōp 30 .āé 95 21:42
 To   : Starwolf
 Subj : B5 Baseball
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (27 May 95) Starwolf wrote to Chris Carter...

 S > I wondered about that.  In the opening film, you've got the captain
 S > commenting to Deleen that it was real tricky, what with the huge space
 S > needed for life support and other essential functions, to have this
 S > teeny, tiny space set aside for a Zen garden.
 S >
 S > But they had the room to spare for a baseball diamond???
 S >
 S > Must have been written by a baseball fan.

Not necessarily--but the station *designers* may have been baseball
fans.  EarthForce seems to be strongly influenced by (if not descended
from) the American government and culture.  Americans, as a whole, are
bigger fans of baseball than of zen.  So when they had X cubic meters
of space left over after building all the essential bits, they had a
choice to make:  devote most of it to a baseball diamond, or a zen
garden?

The choice was obvious....


... God, please grant me more patience...RIGHT NOW!

--- PPoint 1.78
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 Msg  : 268 of 384
 From : Mark Jones                          1:105/302.47    .ōp 30 .āé 95 21:46
 To   : Pamela Crossett
 Subj : Highlander
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (27 May 95) Pamela Crossett wrote to Jack Butler...

 PC>  JB> Also, there are supposedly "big changes" in store for the show.
 PC>
 PC> Come on - give me a hint.
 PC> Actually, give me more than a hint. I want all the details. I
 PC> want it all. Can you arrange that?

It looks to *me* like the "big changes" will consist of someone
letting the immortal cat out of the watchers' bag.

Even if 99% of the public reads about head-hunting immortals amongst
us and then laughs and says, "Yeah--right," that last one percent
could be a real problem.  Consider Duncan MacLeod, for instance.

He's in the Watcher database for Europe, complete with bio and
picture.  Presumably many (if not all) of his battles are on file,
including who he capped and when and where.

If the French government were to begin checking out reports of
headless bodies found around France and comparing them to Duncan's
file...well, they'd find a very hard-to-shrug-off correlation.  He
might have some explaining to do.


... If you're done speaking freely, please step into the oven....

--- PPoint 1.78
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 Msg  : 269 of 384
 From : Mark Jones                          1:105/302.47    .ōp 30 .āé 95 21:52
 To   : Brian Henderson
 Subj : Old Vs New
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (20 May 95) Brian Henderson wrote to Frank Eva...

 BH> But I *LIKE* stupid movies as well as the old 30s serials. In
 BH> fact, I have dozens of them on tape... Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon,
 BH> Radar Men on the Moon, etc. It's an acquired taste, certainly,
 BH> but one worth cultivating IMO.

I certainly agree.

"Do you, Ming the Merciless, take this woman to be your empress of the
hour?"

"Of the hour?  Yes."

"Do you promise to use her as you will?"

"Certainly!"

"Not to blast her into space?" (Ming glares) "Uh...until such time as
you grow weary of her?"

"I do...."



... "...with the blood of patriots AND TYRANTS."  T. Jefferson

--- PPoint 1.78
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 Msg  : 270 of 384
 From : Starwolf                            1:163/214       .pä 31 .āé 95 22:03
 To   : Tony Trujillo
 Subj : Re: Sliders Continuity
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

TT>Glad to see that they decided to give SLIDERS a chance as a
TT>regular series on their line up. I haven't been too excited

Last day or so has seen newspapers reporting that the series had been
shot down by FOX.  I do wish the REAL story would come out, once and for
all.


 * SLMR 2.1a * "I'm NOT making this up, you know!" - Anna Russell

--- Maximus 2.01wb
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 Msg  : 271 of 384
 From : David Johnston                      1:342/14        .åō 01 .ūí 95 01:01
 To   : Chip Garner
 Subj : Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> Any Star Trek Voyager Fans out there?  I think Nelix sucks at acting.
-> Tuvok kicks butt as a Vulcan though!!!

I think you are confusing being a good actor with being a good
character.  Neelix is a weaselly loser and I think that the actor is
portraying a weaselly loser very believably.  Now think about this: do
you dislike Neelix because the actor's demeanor and deliver aren't right
for his lines?  (Which would be bad acting).  Or do you just dislike him
for being a repellent character?

--- PCBoard (R) v15.21/100
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 Msg  : 272 of 384
 From : Pamela Crossett                     1:325/118       .åō 01 .ūí 95 04:10
 To   : Gloria Darcy
 Subj : Highlander, The Series
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

 GD> Where do you live?

I live in Burlington, Vermont.

Where are you? I don't truly understand fido's numbering system (and more
than likely will never remember much more than that 1 means USA and
anything over 1 is out of the country).

 GD> a lot of people on this echo said it was just AWFUL!

Yes, I read these posts.

I personally found something to enjoy in all three (even 11, which I'll
admit was a tad weird, but I love the character Sean Connery plays, so it
was pretty cool to have him back, even in that incredibly fantisized
story.

And it was almost campy.

 GD> Also, I have become a BIG Adrian Paul fan and it's hard for me to see

 GD> someone else play Duncan McLeod.

As I said in my previous post (and I'm sorry if I didn't say it clearly)
Thank God the role in the movies ISN'T Duncan, but CONNOR McLeod.

And Christopher Lambert has some interesting qualities of his own, if you
can forget Adrian Paul for an hour and half or so. His voice is very
melodious and has a cool accent all it's own.

In terms of scenery, 111 is very similar to 1 in that it has some
excellent shots of Scotland's craggy coast. Since that is an area I just
love looking at, that alone made the movie worth going to. Admittedly it
isn't quite as spectacular on a small t.v. screen, but still nice shots.

111 also follows the story line set down in 1 (completely ignoring 11's
weird additions), and unfortunately sort of dismisses the series as a
possibility (but hey, it's a movie. so it's fantasy. it can stand on it's
own!) - but my advice is just ignore the implications there, and enjoy it
as a thing-unto-itself. After all, episode one, "The Gathering" had both
Conner and Duncan in it.

Here's an excerpt from one of the versions of episode listings summerizing
that episode:

      Duncan Macleod is roused from his peaceful existence with
      the love of his life, Tessa Noel, when he is confronted by
      two fellow Immortals from his past. Connor MacLeod, (played
      by Christopher Lambert, reprising his role from the films)
      an old friend and fellow clansman, finds Duncan after many
      years and attempts to convince him to join the fray in the
      battle of Good versus Evil. Connor also has plans to finish
      off the likes of Slan Quince (Played by Richard Moll) an Evil
      Immortal who has tracked down Duncan with plans of combat.
      Realizing that he can be a threat, Duncan confronts Richie
      and later befriends the boy. The threats of Slan Quince come
      to an end on a bridge when Duncan saves the life of his comrade
      Connor and gains a powerful Quickening at the expense of Slan.

So unfortunately, movie 111 doesn't address the issues inherent in having
the movie reality match/correspond with the t.v. series (and for those of
us who love the series on television, that's quite annoying).

On the other hand, there is the question of what if two friendly immortals
are the only two left - and since "there can be only one" what would they
do? I mean, the movies seem to give the impression that immortals are
driven to be that one and only far more so than on television series.

I mean Duncan certainly seems to try to give everyone, even some of the
obviously "bad" ones a second chance before he "kills them off." Actually,
in the movie 111, Connor chooses NOT to kill his teacher, but other than
that, they seem to delight in whacking each other as quickly as possible.

Even in movie one, I seem to recall Connery telling Lambert they would
eventually have to face each other (even as he was teaching him the
ropes).

But movie 111 is worth it for the special effects alone. And the MAGIC!
With the cool Japanese master.

It also had a real cool sword move where one person is without a sword and
is lunged at by their opponent and they manage to turn and take the sword
and win. Very cool! and it's repeated at least twice. (the nice thing
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