BB> I'm not reading any B5 stuff.
There are whole newsgroups and ftp sites that have information and the like
devoted to BABYLON 5, but I guess it depends on what you're looking for and all
that. :) The Brits (and presumably the rest of Europe) are going to be seeing
the final four episodes of the second season in June/July; we're going to have
to wait until October for them. *sigh*
John
.....
"You know, it's really lucky for me that I met you." - Cut-me-own-Throat Dibbler
(MP)
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Msg : 283 of 384
From : John Kahane 1:163/198.5 .åō 01 .ūí 95 10:15
To : Kay Shapero
Subj : B5 Thought
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On , Kay Shapero wrote to Tony Limbert:
KS> Speaking of Pavarotti.. did you see the Babylon 5 episode
KS> Knives a couple of weeks back? That plot with Londo and his
KS> old friend was straight out of Grand Opera...
Yeah, wasn't that great, Kay? :) "Knives" was pretty much a throwaway
episode of B5, but the sub-plot with Londo and the old friend was the only truly
redeeming aspect of the episode. That and Sheridan's reaction to learning that
Keffer was taking jaunts into hyperspace to find his "bogey."
John
.....
"Isn't life interesting when you see it from someone else's perspective?" -
Victor Tugelbend (MP)
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Msg : 284 of 384
From : John Kahane 1:163/198.5 .åō 01 .ūí 95 10:21
To : Frank Swarbrick
Subj : Stuff of TP
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of , Frank Swarbrick scribed:
FS>> Halloween night last year. I was *not* blown away, and
FS>> found parts of it rather annoying (mostly Laura's mothers
FS>> darn bawling through the whole thing!).
JK>> But there was a reason for Laura's mother bawling her head
JK>> off for most of the episode. She is/was a psychic, and had
JK>> "visions" of things...
FS> Didn't say there wasn't a reason. Only said it was annoying!
FS> :-)
:) I suppose. I don't recall thinking of it that way at the time,
although I suppose that some would find it annoying. The visions were kind of
neat though, don't you think?
FS>> (And of course I'll have to rent the "Fire Walk With Me"
FS>> movie.)
JK>> Some of us will have to rent or buy the movie, Frank. I
JK>> still haven't seen FIRE WALK WITH ME. :)
FS> I finished the series the other day. May rent "Fire Walk
FS> With Me" this weekend. I saw it at Blockbuster the other day,
FS> along with the pilot movie and the first seven episodes.
Ah, interesting. I had no idea that some of the episodes of TWIN PEAKS
were actually on video at all. I'd still like to see FIRE WALK WITH ME, but
haven't found a video shop that rents it; might have to add it permanently to
the collection of tapes, if I can find a copy of it for sale.
FS>> On to the questions... First, can someone match the actor's
FS>> names with the characters for me. I know probably less than
FS>> half of them. I'm interested in the main credit stars, the
FS>> beginning credit stars, and even the main guest stars.
JK>> Boy, you don't ask the little questions, do you? :)
FS> [deleted]
FS> Thanks for the list.
You're welcome. :)
FS> How did you manage to know all this?
At one point I was fascinated by this stuff, so I had drawn up a list of
various characters from the series. Stopped doing so after a while, but hey...
FS> Anyway, it's missing a few important characters. Giant was
FS> of course played by Carel Struyken.
That's "Struycken," of course. :)
FS> I saw that David Lynch himself played someone in a few
FS> episodes. At first I thought it must the rather Caucasian
FS> looking Chinese guy ,
*chuckle* No, that turned out to be Catherine Martell in disguise. David
Lynch guested as Cooper's superior, Gordon. And he seems to have developed a
crush on Madchen Amick's character, Shelley, and regained his hearing properly
when he was around her. It must have been love.
FS> Oh, and how about Annie Blackburn? She was a rather
FS> important character, even though she was only in the last
FS> half dozen episodes or so. I found her and Cooper to make
FS> quite a cute couple. :-)
Yeah, they did...except that she proved to be Cooper's downfall, of course.
I can't for the life of me remember who played Annie, but I will take a look at
the videotapes at some point soon and see what I can dig up on this. Might be a
while, however...life hasn't been slow since I got back from KC.
FS> Looking at your list it looks like you don't have anyone from
FS> after the Laura Palmer mystery was solved. Not a criticism by
FS> any means. Just a comment.
Correct. :) That's about the time that I stopped with the notes on cast
members, since I was more concerned with trying to figure out *what* was going
on after that!
FS> How about Thomas Eckhart, Andrew Packard (yes, those last two
FS> have the names listed with the actors), the mayor, Lana, Dick
FS> Tremaine, Jack (who Audrey fell for).
Dick Tremayne (sp?) was played by Ian Buchanan, of GENERAL HOSPITAL fame. I
rather liked his over-the-top performance in that. Reminded me of some of the
characters out of various Tom Holt novels. :)
FS> Oh, and the Renault brothers. And others I can't think of.
FS> Ah well
You said it. Geez, you're wanting a lot of stuff here! :) Oh, and the
Renault brothers were called Jean and Jacques. Actor names escape me at the
moment, but I can dig these up some time, too. :)
FS>> Next question is, did season one end after Cooper got shot?
JK>> Correct. :)
FS>> So the first season would be six episodes, and seven hours.
JK>> Nope. According to my videotape collection, the first
JK>> season consists of the two-hour premiere, and seven one-hour
JK>> episodes.
FS> Hmm, this seems to be correct. I didn't have the so-called
FS> episode title list until after well into the "second season,"
FS> so I couldn't follow along at the time.
That's what I kind of figured, Frank...but as I said in the earlier post,
to the best of my knowledge, the episodes of TWIN PEAKS didn't have individual
titles. And if they did, I'd like to know a) the source of the titles that your
friend had, and b) the full list of episode titles.
FS>> The second season would be 24 episodes and 25 hours (or 26
FS>> if there were two two hour episodes).
JK>> The second season consists of a two-hour premiere again, and
JK>> 21 one-hour episodes as well.
FS> OK...The list I have seems to be totally made up, and not
FS> quite accurate even in which episode goes where. (huh?)
My reaction, exactly. :) That makes no sense to me, since
the episodes would have to be in order or one couldn't make sense out of what
was going on.
FS> Still, most of the titles actually went quite well with what
FS> the episodes were actually about.
Which doesn't mean that these are actually the episode titles, you know.
For example, I've seen every episode of EARTH2 that's aired to this point, and
while I know that the episodes *do* have titles, I've never seen them or a list
of them. I've come up with some of my own titles, some of which are likely
better or worse than the actual titles of the stories.
FS> Fer instance it has the pilot as "Wrapped In Plastic," the
FS> season one finale as "Bite The Bullet," the episode with
FS> Laura's secret diary as "The Diary of Laura Palmer," the
FS> episode where Maddy is killed is, well, "Maddy." Actually,
FS> most of the later titles aren't all too creative. I'll post
FS> it in the next message just so you can see it.
Please do. I'd like to see it. One thing I can tell you is that I'd love
to get a confirmation on whether the episodes had titles or not. Perhaps
someone else out there is knowledgeable about this matter.
John
.....
"Walk a mile on these paws and call me a liar." - Gaspode (MP)
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Msg : 285 of 384
From : Michael Vergara 1:2605/631 .åō 01 .ūí 95 17:03
To : Frank Eva
Subj : Confessions & Lamentation
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+
Said Frank Eva to Richard Yamagata about Confessions & Lamentation:
FE> which sympathy is needed (Confessions & Lamentations). I find it hard
FE> to equate Delenn with the warrior race that brought Earth to its
FE> knees...
Then again, she isn't a warrior. The Minbari are divided into seperate castes,
like the religious and the warrior (Delenn being a member of the religious
caste, I think). Not all of the Minbari are warriors, just like not all
politicians are lawyers.
MikeyV
... Hey Worf!!....I hooked Data up to a modem!....Wanna see??
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Msg : 286 of 384
From : Peter Tam 1:250/836 .åō 01 .ūí 95 17:43
To : Robert Lidgren
Subj : ROSWELL
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
I saw Roswell starring Agent Cooper from Twin Peaks(I can't spell Kyle's last
name:)). I thought it was entertaining. It didn't convince me about the
government finding aliens but it was compelling. I liked JFK too.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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Msg : 287 of 384
From : Tony Limbert 1:2215/420 .åō 01 .ūí 95 17:49
To : Kay Shapero
Subj : SLIDERS SEASON FINALE
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
While summoning Cthulhu, I overheard Kay say :
KS>
KS>
KS> On , Tony Limbert (1:2215/420) wrote to Kay Shapero:
TL>How about a FARNHAM FREEHOLD world where whites are still slaves?
TL>That would be an interesting adventure for Remmy.
KS> Bet they'd still wish a doomed romance on him there too...
Yeah, but with THE GIRL?! :)
TL
... Gimme a shot of reality...BANG...again...BANG...again...
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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Msg : 288 of 384
From : Rumble 1:163/436 .åō 01 .ūí 95 20:11
To : David Johnston
Subj : Voyager Nose Diving?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
--- Maximus 2.02
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Msg : 289 of 384
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .åō 01 .ūí 95 20:57
To : Frank Eva
Subj : Re: B5 Catch-Up
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
FE> Yes, that's the same thing. Is the series popular enough to warrant a
FE>
FE> line of B5 toys? With the threat of cancellation looming over the
