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 -=> Quoting Mark Jones to Vincent Mcconnell <=-

 MJ> Talk is cheap.  Even "official" talk.  I still haven't seen or heard
 MJ> anything to convince this is anything *but* talk.

 MJ> And maybe someone will.  But it HASN'T HAPPENED YET.  And until
 MJ> there's more evidence than a Hollywood *press release* (for God's
 MJ> sake!), I still don't believe it will happen.

 I take talk that comes directly from George Lucas a little more seriously
 than just talk in general or Hollywood press realeases for that matter.
 There was a short interview with George Lucas in TV guide several months
 ago where he stated he would have a new Star Wars movie out by 2000. Yes,
 he could change his mind but I kind of doubt it. He has been intending to
 make more Star Wars movies for quite a while now.

 MJ> ...and if the studio fanned the flames with rumors of an impending new
 MJ> trilogy, the stuff will probably sell even better.  No marketing exec
 MJ> ever thought that "good enough" couldn't be improved.

 That really doesn't explain why Lucas says he will do new movies. He
 certainly doesn't need the money.

... You can tell fantasy from reality - if it sucks, it's real!
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 From : Earl Green                          1:3822/1        .óį 03 .žķ 95 22:46
 To   : Frank Eva
 Subj : B5 RERUNS???
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

FE>Does anyone know what happened to the last 5 episodes in this season's
FE>schedule? (The Long Twilight Struggle, Divided Loyalties, Comes the
FE>Inquisitor, The Price of Peace, and The Fall of Night (season finale)).
FE>We've had reruns 3 weeks in a row!

  First off..."Fall of Night" is the final title of an episode that was
  originally named "The Price of Peace"; the latter title was instead
  used for one of the comics.
  As for the big question, Warner Bros. has decided to hold the last
  four episodes until *October*, allegedly to build interest for the
  beginning of the third season, which hasn't even been approved at this
  time.  Season 2 will be re-running ad nauseum till then.
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 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .óį 03 .žķ 95 23:19
 To   : John Kahane
 Subj : B5 Catch-Up
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Hello John and all visitors to this echo!  The sight with the plot synopsis and
analysis that I visit regularly is:  http://www.hyperion.com
From there you just select: The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5 to go into the most
complete B5 site in the world -- at least that is my opinion.

Your work posting the synopsises on the B5 echo is wonderful.  It is also a lot
of work.  I try to collect what is posted on the World Wide Web and I have to
cut and nip and format and...  it is a lot of work.  Matter of fact, I do not
bother to even fix what I collect up, unless someone like Frank Eva requests me
to netmail something to him.  I have 2 netmail requests at present and I am
trying to fulfill them.  Ry

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 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .óį 03 .žķ 95 23:23
 To   : Frank Eva
 Subj : B5 COMIC
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

FE> According to the letters column in issue #5, DC Comics will be rotating
FE> teams of artists/writers. So, even though the current look has improved,
FE> there is no guarantee this same team will continue to produce the B5
FE> comic...

Hi Frank, I just signed up a Comic shop with my Web Presence development firm.
So, I will soon be getting the B5 comics, regularly.  Hopefully, I will be able
to pick-up the back issues without losing a limb in the process.  Ry

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 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .óį 03 .žķ 95 23:48
 To   : Frank Eva
 Subj : B5 TALK
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

FE> FS "(Delenn).  In fact, she's probably my least favorite
FE> character.

FE> She used to be one of my favorites, before she underwent the
FE> "change"...

I have to say that I found this last episode very unsettling when it came to
Delenn.  We are in the re-run phase that will last until August, I read on the
Net, so I can discuss this weird scene.  Where are they going with this, "will
you call me John?"   As it is, they imply that Delenn and Commander Sinclair
were married in that episode long ago where they were exchanging culture and
customs.  It seems that this bit was penned by JMS back, before they decided
that Sinclair was to leave.  It made no sense to me.

Other than that, I loved this episode.  I think that Richard Biggs makes every
plot line and scene on B5 that he is a part -- work.  This episode, I could find
not a single scene of his that I could criticize.  When I first saw the promos,
my first thought was, "oh no, another attempt at trying to capitalize
on that Dustin Hoffman movie."  Well, I do not think you could say that.  This
episode had a message and a moral.  It also ended in a way that shakes you to
the core.  I find it ironic that they were able to save the race of carrion
eaters and yet not save a race with eating habits more in line with humans.

This was an excellent episode for me.  It was interesting that they used a
little person (PC) to play the young girl, not a child.  That was an interesting
choice.  It seems that all in all, you cannot say that Billy Mummy is given
fluff pieces.  His part in this episode was significant.  It was also memorable
and left a lasting impression upon me.  It also adds to the arguement why the
role of the Narn Ambassador aide changed.

Lastly, after this, I think that the Janet Greek season finale written by JMS is
going to be something that is going to knock everyone's socks off and have the
VCR playing over and over.  She is the finest of the B5 directors in my opinion.
The sound tracks of her episodes should be nominated for awards and sold on CDs.
I am so excited by what the future portends for this series. We are seeing the
creation of another classic series.  JMS builds up the plot
lines and the expectations, but he has yet to disappoint me.

I remember that BATTLESTAR GALACTICA would build up these new and unique plot
lines that had all types of implications and then... just peter out or have some
rediculous conclusion that was a no-brainer.

B5 just gets better and better.  JMS, the directors and the actors all are
honing their art -- by year 5 it will be something that very few Sci-fi
programmers could not even begin to match coming out of the future starting
blocks.  Ry

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 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .óį 03 .žķ 95 23:58
 To   : Brian Henderson
 Subj : B5 Ripoff: Ds9
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

BH> I'm not saying that Robyn was wrong.  I said that B5 *WAS* an investment
BH> of time and that is what I like about it. The plotlines *WILL* end neatly
BH> BH> at the end of the series, I assume, but you do have to spend some BH>
BH> time thinking about the show. That is one of it's best qualities.

Here, here, you are preaching to the choir!  You are absolutely, 100% correct.
(This is in no reference and not meant to paraphrase OJ .)

BH> You said at the end that "unfortunately, B5 is not like Star
BH> Trek".  There is nothing unfortunate about it. It is not supposed to be
BH> like Star Trek, and if it was, I certainly wouldn't watch it.

Again, I have to agree with you.  I do not watch DS9.  I do not watch Voyager
on a regular basis.  I may tape the episodes for someone else to watch, but that
is where it ends.  The only show that I tape, archive an watch religiously is
BABYLON 5.  B5 is the only show that I try to interest people in watching on a
regular basis.  Ry

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 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .cź 04 .žķ 95 00:06
 To   : Brian Henderson
 Subj : B5 Vs St
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

BH> Absolutely.  I think I've seen most of the heavy arc episodes at least 5-6
BH> times now. You just have to keep going back and picking up the clues in
BH> light of new information. My next episode will be "Deathwalker" BH> to try
BH> to piece together the Kosh/Talia angle.

You are a person that should be commended as one of the FAITHFUL.  It is people
like you that will keep the interest in this series high with inciteful
discussion.  Matter of fact I would like to hear what your conclusions are from
this episode.  Did Ivanova really say something to the effect that the Vorlon
were immortal?  What does the episode show that Dr. Franklin do with
DEATHWALKER's blood sample?

BH> B5 *HAS* magic.  It makes you look forward to the next episode. I can't
BH> this week. So what? B5 is a show that appeals to fans of written sci-fi.

Some of your analysis I will have to keep around and quote in a feature article
about Babylon 5!  I agree with you completely on this.

"Everyone eventually comes to Babylon 5."   Even more true today, than it was
4 years ago! Ry

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 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .cź 04 .žķ 95 00:09
 To   : Gary Tincher
 Subj : Who to write to for B5
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Gary, Good News, B5 has been renewed and the future is BRIGHT.  MICROMACHINES
has come out with Babylon 5 toys, which means that the powers that be are sure
that B5 is something that will be marketable for some time to come.

Did you send in your postcard?  That in itself shows the marketing potential for
the show and shows advertisers that the people that watch B5 do see the
commercials and act upon them.  I send in at least a half dozen by now.
SUPPORT BABYLON 5.  Convert your friends to B5 watchers!  Converse with JMS on
GEnie, CIS or Delphi!  Ry

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 From : Richard Yamagata                    1:203/955       .cź 04 .žķ 95 00:32
 To   : Gary Tincher
 Subj : Who to write to for B5
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
* In a message originally to All, Gary Tincher said:

GT> Anyone have an address to write to to keep B5 on the air?
GT> Or is it too late... :(

I thought about your request and heck, it is never too late to show your local
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