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In a message dated 06-08-95 BRIAN HENDERSON wrote to RICHARD YAMAGATA:

 BH> Trekkies don't support anything that isn't Trek, so Paramount can

hmmm excuse me if this seems taken out of context, but I consider myself a
Trekkie, and I love B5, X-Files, enjoy L&C and have a broad range of
enjoyments in SF as well as real-life . Perhaps your view of what a
'trekkie' is is more limited than that of mine? BTW, I am a member of 2 Trek
fan clubs and with few exceptions the members have at least as broad  tastes
as I do. Many of them can also read 

Ciao,
  BILL

 -> Alice4Mac 2.5d3 E QWK Eval:27Dec94

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 Msg  : 287 of 322
 From : Marc Zingarelli                     1:226/110       .īķ 19 .žķ 95 16:36
 To   : Jack Butler
 Subj : Kilmer as Batman
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12  92-0004
Jack Butler was overheard talking to All,
about Kilmer as Batman, in "Joe's Place" and said:

JB>     Warner Brothers has already announced that both Val Kilmer and Chris
JB>O'Donnell have signed to make further Batman films after this one.  Nicole
JB>Kiddman has also stated that she would welcome the opportunity to do another
JB>one.
JB>     The only problem I can see is a villain shortage.  Right quick they
JB>are going to run out of "recognizable" villains for Batman to fight.  All th
JB>villains who became "name recognizable" by way of the 60's TV show (the

But you forgot Mr Freeze?  And the rest of the motley cast.  I do like your
suggestions by the way.  Or how about a remake of the original batman movie
where all the villains got together?

Later

Marc


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 LT MARC ZINGARELLI
 Circleville Fire Department
 Local 1232
 Internet:  marc.zingarelli@tcr.com


 * OLX 1.52 * 9 out of 10 men who tried camels went back to women.

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Ä [17] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 288 of 322
 From : ROBERT LIDGREN                      1:134/10        .īķ 19 .žķ 95 23:00
 To   : STEVE WISER
 Subj : H20 WRLD=THUNDERDOME+H2O
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Good one!

And besides that, it would have a tough time being a better picture.  The
second and third Mad Max films were much more than just blood-fests.
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 Msg  : 289 of 322
 From : ROBERT LIDGREN                      1:134/10        .īķ 19 .žķ 95 23:05
 To   : JACK BUTLER
 Subj : B5 RIPOFF: DS9
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> Quoth Brian Henderson, "Nevermore".
-> BH> Trekkies don't support anything that isn't Trek, so Paramount can BH>
-> either  produce the Star Trek Network, or try producing something that BH>
-> people  want to watch.  Any bets on which one they'll try first?
->    What a typically arrogant, Brian-Hendersonian thing to say.  And what,
-> pray tell, about the thousands of "Trekkies" (your word) who are supporting
-> your precious object of worship by watching *it* also?
->
->    Jack Butler

Well done Jack!  It's fine to criticize ..Trek.  However, when anyone
stereotypes hundreds of thousands like this it demonstrates a certain lack of
analysis and common sense.  The idea that "Trekkies" (cute but pretty useless
term) only support Star Trek incarnations flies in the face of the barest
rudiments of logic.
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Ä [17] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 290 of 322
 From : ROBERT LIDGREN                      1:134/10        .īķ 19 .žķ 95 23:08
 To   : JACK BUTLER
 Subj : KILMER AS BATMAN
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
->    Still, I have some ideas.  I've long since retired the original wish
-> list I posted oh so many years ago, but Dustin Hoffman as The Mad Hatter,
-> Helena Bonham Carter as Poison Ivy, Alan Rickman as Maxie Zeus, Wesley
-> Snipes as the Black Spider, Lance Henrikson as Ra's Al Ghul, Michael Biehn
-> as Deadshot, and Patrick Stewart as Mister Zero would all do as villains.
-> Also, I think John Goodman would do well as The Ventriloquist.

Gee, what a good list.  Now, is there a spot for Letterman and Keanu Reeves
somewhere in here?
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 Msg  : 291 of 322
 From : ROBERT LIDGREN                      1:134/10        .īķ 19 .žķ 95 23:12
 To   : JACK BUTLER
 Subj : CROSSPOST
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
->    From:  Use-White Wolf
->    By:  David Johnston 
->    Subject:  Project Twilight
->
->    There was indeed talk of having Darren McGavin come on, *in character*,
-> and meet Mulder.  However, apparently they're having problems with names,
-> etc.  Somebody owns the copyright on Carl Kolchak and unless they can deal
-> with that person or group, they can't use him on X-Files.
->
->    ************************************************************
->
->    Anybody out there hear anything about this?  Is this rumor for real?
-> If so, I think the idea is too cool for school, myself.  I've always been a
-> Kolchak fan...

For a really weird and wonderful addition, how about Agent Cooper from Twin
Peaks making an appearance?  Two FBI agents investigating the "strange.?"

Could Scully stomach that?
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 Msg  : 292 of 322
 From : ROBERT LIDGREN                      1:134/10        .īķ 19 .žķ 95 23:15
 To   : JACK BUTLER
 Subj : CROSSPOST
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
->    Methos:  not much to say here except for a guy that has lived thousands
-> of years he can do some rather doofy things.  The doofy things that Methos
-> does could be excused if he were Richie.
->
->    That watcher, I can't remember his name starts with a V?, you know who,
-> the black guy who decked Dawson.  What a moron.  He is driving toward Kallas
-> and shooting at him, knowing that he is an immortal.  He finally gets Kallas
-> on the ground, DROPS HIS GUN, gets out of the car, looks at Kallas laying on
-> the ground and thinks "I need something sharp" and IGNORES THE SWORD next to
-> Kallas.  Duh there is an ax behind me I will go get it!  His stupidity has
-> already killed him nuffsaid.
->
->    Well here is another goodun':  Let's see, if I were part of a secret
-> society like the Watchers and created a database, I think I might just
-> require a PASSWORD.  And don't tell me they would not know how!  That
-> database was more than just a few linked tables, it looked pretty good. And
-> don't say access, you still would need more than just a do it yourself book
-> and a clue.
->
->    ***************************************
->
->    There wasn't a name on this... just a INet ID which contained no part
-> of the poster's name.
->
->    Jack Butler

These cross-posts are very interesting.  Thanks for sharing them with us!!
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 Msg  : 293 of 322
 From : ROBERT LIDGREN                      1:134/10        .īķ 19 .žķ 95 23:17
 To   : MYRA I FOX
 Subj : OLD YELLOW EYES/WHERE CAN
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-> RL>Can anyone tell me of a source for the recording Brett Spiner (DATA)
-> RL>did called "OLD YELLOW EYES?"  Apparently it is a collection of songs
-> I have seen it in Star Tech's catalog... PO Box 456
->                                        Dunlap TN 37327

Thanks Myra!  I had a hunch this info. might be "out there" somewhere.

cheers-
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 Msg  : 294 of 322
 From : Mark Jones                          1:105/302.47    .pä 14 .žķ 95 23:40
 To   : Jeff Hancock
 Subj : Sliders - Bathroom? Wash
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (10 Jun 95) Jeff Hancock wrote to Mark Jones...

 MJ> Yeah! Like space-dock sized replicators powered by a ring of
 MJ> matter-antimatter reactors. Build a starship, get it fully
 MJ> equipped, fully provisioned, fully crewed. Slide it into the
 MJ> replicator dock and scan it. File the data away.
 JH>
 JH> And how are the crewmember's families going to deal with having dozens
 JH> of duplicate relatives?  There goes security shot straight to
 JH> hell.

It's better than having *dead* relatives, eh?  But if that's a
consideration, you could use volunteers who have no families.  In a
culture the size of the Federation, that shouldn't be too
tough--remember, you only need enough such "orphans" to crew *one*
ship....

Even better, though--staff the ship with Klingons.  Their loved one
would probably think it was just KEEN than Uncle ArgleBargle is the
captain of a *score* of warships!  (And would be pleased as punch to
know that he'd get the chance to die a warrior's death not once--but
countless times!)

 JH> Besides which, if they can't replicate a lung, how do they replicate
 JH> people? ;)

Well...that's the point, really.  Given the transporter and the
replicator (which are apparently two different versions of the same
basic technology), they *should* be able to replicate not just lungs,
but whole persons.  Which means, they'd have immortality of a sort.
It wouldn't matter how many times you killed Wesley Crusher, until and
unless you tracked down and destroyed *every* single copy of his
transporter trace, he'd pop up again.

But they don't want to deal with that, so The Powers That Be decreed
that it can't be done.  I, on the other hand, find the whole notion
fascinating and would love to see someone run with it.

 MJ> When the Borg come calling, send them a message: "Crunch all you
 MJ> want. We'll make more!" Turn out starships as fast as you can
 MJ> cycle them through the airlock!
 JH>
 JH> Somehow this strikes me as having as much effect as raindrops hitting
 JH> the sidewalk.

Perhaps.  But then again, perhaps *enough* ships could have stopped
the Borg.  Or convinced them that the Federation was a prize not worth
the effort.  Or, the very least, kept them busy long enough for the
Federation to come up with something that *would* stop the Borg.
(After all, why settle for just *one* Einstein when you can replicate
him wholesale and get lifetimes of productive thought in just a year
or two?)

 JH>  * Crazy-J * "I feel your pain"? Nah, more like "I feel you're paying"

All too true....

... "He was starting to annoy me, so I gave him another try at reincarnation."

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 Msg  : 295 of 322
 From : David Johnston                      1:342/14        .˙ņ 16 .žķ 95 01:18
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