Not sure if I'm going to become a regular viewer of Saturday morning
fare, but it was sure interesting to look at. And there appeared to be
some manner of space chihuahua, too.
e <-- Earl Green (earl.green@3822-1.mx1.fidonet.org) 1:3822/1
Graphics/animation artist, KPBI Fox 46/15 & KFDF UPN 32/36
and third singing fiddygibber from the left
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Msg : 236 of 249
From : Lawrence E Dunlap 1:106/2927 .˙ō 22 .āp 96 23:13
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Starship Troopers
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
NS>.25>, David Johnston (1:342/14) wrote to Bill Clements:
NS>In Starship Troopers, women weren't barred from serving (they appear to have
NS>made up the majority of the Navy's pilots, for one thing, IIRC). They just
NS>weren't ground pounders, by and large.
NS>-- Nicolai Shapero, the Mad Russian Sysop of StormGate Aerie
NS> Origin:(1:102/524)
There have been variable findings of studies of women in 20th
Century Terran combat. Some studies have recommended admitting women to
combat. Others recommend waiting for a major combat environment to test
the performance of women in battle.
Nevertheless, a operational dynamic is invovled in the M.I. in
_Starship Troopers_ where power armor is used to upgrade the fighting
ability and natural physical skills of the infantry involved.
To justify the technology, decisive and effective offensive
operations would be necessary by hypermobile, hyperstrong soldiers who
move at nearly 75 miles/hour (@ 120 km/hour) on the ground and can jump
about 0.6 miles into the air (1 km) across horizontal distances ranging
from fractions of a mile or kilometer to several miles or kilometers
would be critical to victory in combat.
Additionally, Heinlein also possibly respected the sensitive
publishing executives of 1958 by casting men in combat roles in
_Troopers_. Heinlein, knowing in 1958 there might not be any studies
of womem in combat before _Troopers_ would be filmed might have had
honest literary doubts about portraying female Mi as able to integrate
sensory imput *only in power suits* to carry out lighting strike
offensive charges. (Please remember the novel is set in the mid-22nd
Century, and that females are trooper shuttle and starship pilots in _Troopers_)
Last Heinlein was a genteel Missourian who might have privately felt
women could fight in wars but knew publicizing that opinion during the
Cold War might have ended his science-fiction writing career.
I think the most controversial element that is likely to be
rewritten or treated differently in 1996 terms is the political theory
of _Starship Trooper_ Terran Federation Government.
In light of the turmoil the Cold War caused in the voting public,
Heinlein evidently rethought the wisdom of popular election by an very
wide electorate "less than soundly" educated--in RAH's private opinion
in 1958--population of that day.
Good job Heinlein isn't around to witness the 1990's! Witnessing out
times would have literally killed him.
Lawrence E Dunlap
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Msg : 237 of 249
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .˙ō 22 .āp 96 18:41
To : Lawrence E Dunlap
Subj : weird tv
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of 18 Mar 96 Lawrence E Dunlap wrote to Gerry Normandeau:
LED>
LED> Does anybody remember a cartoon TV series where a undersea colony
LED> is
LED> so far below the ocean the crew would need to depressurize for several
LED> days to return to the surface? It aired on NBC sometime between 1970
LED> and
LED> 1980 on Saturday mornings. Yes, it wasn't very imaginative or weird,
LED> it
LED> was unusual in some respects because ordinary crises were part of the
LED> drama of the show.
LED>
LED> This came during a experimental cycle in Network cartoon TV where
LED> the programmers avoided using villans or combat to introduce drama and
LED> it lasted only one or two years. Believe it or not, this was prior to
LED> Congressional threats to institute intense, constricting regulation of
LED> children's TV
I remember it: SEALAB 2020. The first hint of the eco-correctness that was to
follow, before Love Canal hit the headlines.
Todd Sullivan
... Can you do the Picard Maneuver in a Grand Am?
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Msg : 238 of 249
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .˙ō 22 .āp 96 18:48
To : The Raven
Subj : Nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of 19 Mar 96 The Raven wrote to Nicolai Shapero:
TR> So I phoned her up and said "No, but you do see otters using rocks
TR> to
TR> bust open clams, and chimpanzees using sticks to fish termites out of
TR> their
TR> nests. Now, your point was again?"
TR> She hemmed and hawed and ended up saying that people who were
TR> "insensitive to pain felt by animals" would always find some cheap way
TR> (those were her exact words) to justify their cruelty...
TR> Heh.
Just another idiot that thinks animals do things for the same reasons we do.
Humanizing anything non-human implies a higher standard (to them). To me, it's
a sign of illogical romanticism gone haywire.
Todd Sullivan
... "Are we to mark this day with a white or black stone?" --Cervantes
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Msg : 239 of 249
From : Todd Sullivan 1:202/720.3 .˙ō 22 .āp 96 18:50
To : Brion Lienhart
Subj : Trek Movie "bugs"
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
In a message of 21 Mar 96 Brion Lienhart wrote to me:
BL> power drains by using the coarse frequency adjust (output breaker) on
BL> the turbine generators, but there isn't any "power drain" meter that I
BL> know of. There are meters that tell you the level of activity in the
BL> core, but IIRC, they were just "capturing stray photons" or some such
BL> nonsense, not causing the core to power up.
BL>
Or down, sideways, etc.
Just another long reach for a bit of useless and insipid drama.
Todd Sullivan
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Msg : 240 of 249
From : Peter Tam 1:259/536 .ķá 23 .āp 96 17:11
To : Tommy Kellerman
Subj : Alien 4
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
TK> Does somebody know anything about Alien 4?
Script by Joss Whedon..who did uncredited work on "Speed" and "Waterworld"
Ripley is revived through cloning!? Winona Ryder RUMOURED costar. Nuthin' more
than that...oh yeah a wonky title "Alien Resurrection"...feh
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Msg : 241 of 249
From : Star Hawk 1:362/708.6 .ķá 23 .āp 96 02:26
To : Denis Lamy
Subj : Generations Big Mistake
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
From my perch I saw this come out of the gravity well from Denis Lamy:
[> Denis Lamy [> First bug that appear in it is the fact that you only
[> have to cross the nexus to be in it. Why did Soran had to move the
[> path of the nexus to cross a planet, he only had to fly through it
[> with a shuttle. Or do you need to use a starship for that (Kirk
[> first death).
Not a mistake. It's stated in the film that the energies of the Nexus are
very damaging to spacecraft... and it does you no good if the ship blows up and
kills you before you can cross over.
Star Hawk, the EchoTrickster
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Msg : 242 of 249
From : Jon Helis 1:3800/25 .ķá 23 .āp 96 18:11
To : Charles Daniels
Subj : Re: QUARK!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Quoting Charles Daniels to Sarah Hargreaves <=-
> I was having a discussion about it the other day with some workmates,
> and we couldn't remember all the character names.. Quark (of course), Gene
> and Gene.. but thats all we could come up with (slack huh?).. can someone
> out there come to my rescue of sleepness nights of trying to remember the
> character names?
CD> There was the half-plant half-woman officer named Phicus I believe.
CD> Is there anywhere I can get this series on tape???
It aired during a tribute to science fiction on the Comedy
Central cable network around a year ago. Unfortunately, I
didn't bother taping it. As for commercial availability,
unknown.
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Msg : 243 of 249
From : Jon Helis 1:3800/25 .ķá 23 .āp 96 18:13
To : Charles Daniels
Subj : Re: Red Dwarf
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
-=> Quoting Charles Daniels to All <=-
CD> I just wanted to see if there were any fellow Red Dwarf fans posting
CD> here. I have been a regular on alt.tv.red-dwarf for about 5 years now,
CD> and have built a collection of Red Dwarf vids, books, junk, and
CD> collectiables that would scare any other fan. I run Deep Thought BBS
CD> at (916) 452-9501 which holds the start of an interactive Hitchhiker's
CD> Guide and over 20MB of RD files. I'm just waiting for series 7 and\or
CD> the Third Smeg Ups reel!
I'm a Red Dwarf fan myself. I haven't seen as much of the
series as I'l like to have, mainly because of moving from one
city to another. Here in Baton Rouge, LA, The show started
airing again from the very beginning, hopefully they'll air all
of them. Great series.
Hithhiker's guide is also a great series. I really enjoyed the
books alot.
... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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Msg : 244 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 18 .āp 96 16:23
