To : David Johnston
Subj : Starship Troopers
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On (17 Mar 96) David Johnston wrote to Bill Clements...
DJ> -> little resemble the book. The lack of female Mobile Infantry
DJ> -> troopers is sure to be noticed. History and Moral Philosophy,
DJ> -> fully 10% of the written copy, is far from being politically
DJ>
DJ> Interesting issue. Military service is required for the vote. If
DJ> women are barred from combat duty then either they don't have the
DJ> vote, or have the vote without having to take the risks that the
DJ> other half do.
No, women aren't in the M.I. On the other hand, men virtually
never get positions as starship pilots (but the women do). Both jobs
are dangerous. In fact, in the culture described in Starship
Troopers, the military goes out of its way to make sure EVERY military
position is dangerous (even if it consists of being a test subject for
medical experiments because you have no aptitude for *anything*--but
you have a legal right to undergo military service to earn your right
to vote.)
Any job which *isn't* dangerous and which can be done by a civilian
*is* done by a civilian. ALL the M.I.'s fight, from the commander to
the cook and the chaplain.
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Msg : 245 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 18 .āp 96 16:28
To : Tony Trujillo
Subj : Sliders is BACK!
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On (14 Mar 96) Tony Trujillo wrote to Wes Yahola...
TT> Speaking of Harry, I've never read any of his books. The only book
TT> I attempted to read by him was called THE CASE OF THE TOXIC SPELL
TT> DUMP...which I in fact dumped about 40 pages into it. Are there some
TT> other books (I do know if GUNS OF THE SOUTH) that I should really
TT> check out?
I couldn't read TOXIC SPELL DUMP either. I got farther than you
did, but not by much.
I'd recommend NONINTERFERENCE--its probably my favorite of his
novels. It's about a Federation Survey Ship which encounters a
primitive culture while exploring. One crewman violates the
Noninterference Directive (sounds familiar, doesn't it?) and promptly
gets cashiered in disgrace. But the deed is done.
Centuries later, the region is re-surveyed, and the ramifications
of his actions are...astounding. The Survey Service bigwigs try very
hard to cover up this embarrassment lest they get their funding cut by
Federation representatives who don't like the Service anyhow. Lots of
intrigue, backstabbing and murder ensue.
GUNS OF THE SOUTH is also very good. And his WORLDWAR series (two
paperback, the third in hardback currently) are also worth reading.
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Msg : 246 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .îí 18 .āp 96 16:34
To : Kay Shapero
Subj : How does Catherine survive into new B&B miniseries??
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On (15 Mar 96) Kay Shapero wrote to Mark Jones...
KS> Frankly, I've always assumed everything that happened after the
KS> first hour of that big final double episode was bogus. Not at all
KS> appropriate to a fairy tale. Instead the second half should have
KS> consisted of both parties finally figuring out what they really
KS> wanted, making the necessary adjustments in their lives, and then
KS> getting married. BIG wedding scene in the tunnel, groom and bride
KS> kiss, fade out to "And they lived happily ever after". End of
KS> story.
That would have worked...if they'd ended the series. Which,
admittedly, many fans might have preferred to what they did.
But I think that given the realities they were faced with, the
producers and writers did a good job.
Linda Hamilton was leaving the series. So they had to a) end the
series, b) kill her off, or c) have her "leave" in some fashion
without dying.
Option A probably wasn't seriously considered.
Option C was untenable--if the characters were so desperately in
love, I can't imagine anything that could realistically separate them
*except* death. And if something had, the show would have to revolve
around their endless attempts to get back together. Would the fans
have accepted it if Vincent had shrugged and gone on with his life
(and other adventures) while Catherine was missing or in jail or
living in LA making more money with L.A. LAW firm? I think not.
Which left killing her off.
And yes, frankly, I was annoyed by the ignominious way in which she
died. But having her character die was the only real choice, I think.
And I liked the third-season storyline. I especially enjoyed the
actor who played Gabriel. And I liked the lady detective. The
writing was good (especially in that the characters were *thinking*--
which makes up for a lot in my book).
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Msg : 247 of 249
From : Mark Jones 1:105/302.47 .åō 21 .āp 96 23:18
To : Gary Warren
Subj : How does Catherine survive into new B&B miniseries??
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On (19 Mar 96) Gary Warren wrote to Mark Jones...
MJ> That isn't necessarily the case. It depends on *when* Sam leaps
MJ> in, and *who* Sam possesses. He could abort the whole thing
MJ> before Gabriel ever gets his hands on Catherine. Or he could leap
MJ> into one of the armed goons guarding Catherine and find a way to
MJ> help her escape. Or he could leap into a policeman (or DA--as I
MJ> recall, in the fan-fic story, he possessed Joe, Catherine's DA
MJ> pal). A cop or a DA who figured out where she was being held
MJ> *could* gather an army.
GW>
GW> I sincerely (and without any flaming, ok? :D) think you're
GW> reaching, Mark, a bit too far. If we're going to have impossible
GW> crossovers, for economic and TV studio reasons, let's have one
GW> where TNG's Worf ends up in Gabriel's HQ. Would be neat to see
GW> him beside Vincent, no?
Of course I'm reaching. I don't expect this to happen--I just
think it would be really neat if it could.
As for a B&B/ST:TNG cross-over....blech! No way!
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Msg : 248 of 249
From : Jon Helis 1:3800/25 .ķá 23 .āp 96 22:15
To : Denis Lamy
Subj : Re: Generations Big Mista
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-=> Quoting Denis Lamy to Brandon Wolgast <=-
DL> First bug that appear in it is the fact that you only have to cross
DL> the nexus to be in it. Why did Soran had to move the path of the nexus
DL> to cross a planet, he only had to fly through it with a shuttle. Or do
DL> you need to use a starship for that (Kirk first death).
My understanding was that ships that crossed the Nexus were
either severely damaged or destroyed, which was why Dr. Soren
had to use a planet in order to get back into the Nexus.
... No Worf...The holodeck won't run Doom.
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Msg : 249 of 249
From : Keith Stokes 1:280/5 .ķá 23 .āp 96 21:16
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : Starship Troopers
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Msg : 1 of 233
From : Frank Swarbrick 1:104/825 .îí 22 .īp 96 19:42
To : Jeff Lutkus
Subj : Denise Crosby
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.TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 92-0022
On 04-21-96 13:45 Jeff Lutkus, the heir to the kingdom of idiots, said:
-=> Quoting Frank Swarbrick to Jeff Lutkus <=-
FS> On 04-17-96 19:57 Jeff Lutkus, the heir to the kingdom of idiots,
FS> said:
-=> Quoting Mark Moore to All <=-
MM> Hey everybody, the new Star Trek movie, Ressurection, is due out in
MM> the theaters this summer. I'm starting a petition to bring Denise
JL> just a comment here, but I heard it'll be out around Thanksgiving... I
JL> don't believe they could possible go from having shot nothing to
JL> finishing the movie before the summer's over.
FS> Why not? They did it for Generations in 1994.
JL> that's odd, since I remember seing generations around thanksgiving of
JL> 94.
Oh, did he say summer? Oops, I suppose I should read the thing before
answering!! You're right that Generations came out around
Thanksgiving of 1994. But all I've heard is ST8 is due out
Thanksgiving this year, so that's why I answered as I did. OOOps.
Frank
... Let them eat static!
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Msg : 2 of 233
From : Falcon 1:366/205 .îí 22 .īp 96 20:06
To : Moderator
Subj : Rules
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Would you please post the rules of this echo so that one of the first things
my users will see is the rules when they come into this echo?
Thank you very much.
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Msg : 3 of 233
From : Lori Brown 1:363/1701 .îí 22 .īp 96 21:06
To : Wayne Crow
Subj : Kindred: Embrace
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WC> TS>I think it's an excellent departure from the "standard" that came
WC> from Dracu
WC> TS>but it has that air Stoker created. Certainly better than what
WC> was done in
WC> TS>'Salem's Lot. King did better than the adaptors could cope with,
WC> methinks.
WC>
WC> So do I. It's a well written show. It's not the usual Dracula stuff
WC> we've been known to seen. That's what I mainly like about the show. I
WC> just saw a preview of the next show on Wednesday. Looks like another
WC> good episode..
WC>
I like "Kindred" too. You guys (hi, Todd!) do realize it's based on "Vampire:
The Masquerade" role-playing game & the World of Darkness created for the game,
right?
Lori Brown
email: Lori.Brown%274@Satlink.oau.org
... Christian Science Programming: "Let God Debug It!".
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Msg : 4 of 233
From : Dave MacLean 1:259/536 .ōp 23 .īp 96 00:19
To : Bob Klahn
Subj : SCI FI
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hi i enjoy other sci fi myself such as b5 and sliders. i have never seen
spaceabove & beyond. should you want to talk trek or other sci fi feel free to
