Mobile Infantry. The navy in ST is mostly female.
/s/ Ecarey
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Msg : 227 of 249
From : Robert Parson 1:3822/1 .˙ō 22 .āp 96 15:38
To : Lawrence E Dunlap
Subj : RE: WEIRD TV
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
LAWRENCE had a few words to say about Re: WEIRD TV
LED> Does anybody remember a cartoon TV series where a undersea colony is
LED> so far below the ocean the crew would need to depressurize for several
LED> days to return to the surface? It aired on NBC sometime between 1970
LED> and 1980 on Saturday mornings.
How does Sealab 2020 sound? I'm not sure if we're talking about the same
show or not. I've been waiting for it to turn up on Cartoon Network. But
all I ever see is Scooby Doo. By the way, I found out not too long ago that
there are 310 episodes of Scooby Doo in various incarnations (including "Pup
Named Scooby Doo").
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Msg : 228 of 249
From : Chris Carter 1:105/290.23 .ķá 23 .āp 96 04:38
To : Nicolai Shapero
Subj : Nuclear
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (20 Mar 96) Nicolai Shapero wrote to JOHN ROSS...
NS> I have put on a muzzle, and then been able to see my chest. And
NS> without bending my neck, I can't see something I'm working on next
NS> to my chest without the muzzle.
We're getting into a weird area here.
Chris - carter@teleport.com
... "Every day the same thing. Variety."
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Msg : 229 of 249
From : Chris Carter 1:105/290.23 .ķá 23 .āp 96 04:40
To : The Raven
Subj : Catherine Returns
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (20 Mar 96) The Raven wrote to Mark Jones...
MJ> What other options are there?
TR> 1. The "Exact Identical Duplicate" option: Catherine isn't
TR> really Catherine but is actually Jennifer the Meter Maid or
TR> something and only *looks* like Catherine.
TR> 2. Time Travelling Vincent.
I'm surprised no one has thought of the idea I thought was really
obvious.
A Terminator is sent from the future to save Catherine, by killing
Vincent before they meet for the first time.
Chris - carter@teleport.com
... "Oh, knock it off! How jolly can you get??"
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Msg : 230 of 249
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .åō 21 .āp 96 20:57
To : Tommy Kellerman
Subj : Re: Alien 4
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
TK> Does somebody know anything about Alien 4?
TK>
TK> Please share...
Only rumor I've heard: It involves a clone of Ripley, and something goes
*horribly* wrong....
And `Ressurection' may bepartof the title. (Which pre-empted it away from
Paramount, which had planned to use it in the title of the next Star Trek film.
Of course, there was a minor conflict when `ST II: The Revenge of Khan.' and
`The Revenge of the Jedi' were to comeout thesame year. In the end, neither film
used that word....)
Frank
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Msg : 231 of 249
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .ķá 23 .āp 96 01:12
To : The Raven
Subj : Re: Alien threats?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
TR> FG> Some civilizations are nasty, and know it. Others percieve
TR> FG> themselves as doing good. The latter could be the worst ones....
TR>
TR>
TR> The ones to watch out for are going to be those alien
TR> civilizations to
TR> whom the phrases "nasty" and "doing good" are non sequitors. The
TR> ones we
TR> cannot relate to because we are incapable of understanding.
TR>
TR> Jack Butler
Agreed. Espically if concepts like `negotiate' or `surrender' (us *or* them!)
have no meaning to them either....
Frank
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Msg : 232 of 249
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .ķá 23 .āp 96 01:33
To : Denis Lamy
Subj : Re: Generations Big Mistake
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
DL> First bug that appear in it is the fact that you only have to cross
DL> the nexus
DL> to be in it. Why did Soran had to move the path of the nexus to cross
DL> a
DL> planet, he only had to fly through it with a shuttle. Or do you need
DL> to use a
DL> starship for that (Kirk first death).
Though he never explained just why, Soran explicitly said that it couldn't be
done, when Picard said there must be someother way to get him to the Nexus.
And I still say that if we're going to argue that all post-Nexus Star Trek
must be a Picard fantasy, then why not look even farther back? Could everything
be *Kirk's* fantasy, from the moment he was blown off the Enterprise-B? Or
Soran's fantasy from themoment he *first* went into the Nexus? (Though in either
case you have to say that their fantasies end in their own deaths...)
Me, I'll take it at face value, and accept that Kirk and Picard really left
the Nexus. After all, the Nexus gives you what you want, and leaving's what they
finally wanted....
(But anyone who likes this kind of confusion, I reccommend you see the movie
`Jacob's Ladder.')
Frank
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Msg : 233 of 249
From : Bill Clements 1:18/230 .˙ō 22 .āp 96 17:44
To : Frank Glover
Subj : STARSHIP TROOPERS
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
From the desk of a cynical old man...
On (18 Mar 96) FRANK GLOVER wrote to BILL CLEMENTS...
FG> I wonder how well `The Forever War' would survive such a film
FG> translation? Haldeman already had most of the `PC' elements in place,
FG> including women in the Infantry. *Properly* handeled, it could come
FG> off as well as the Marines in `Aliens,' I would think.
FG> Except homosexuality as the normal state of the world will stick in
FG> the throats of some people....
FG> I suppose ( admittedly oversymplyfing here ) conservatives might
FG> like Starship Troopers, and dislike The Forever War....
There is, I believe, a major story element that will be beyond
the scope of the average viewing public. RELATIVITY:
--------------------- BEGIN HALDEMAN QUOTE ----------------------
"This is the first manifestation of a very important effect that
has heretofore been of interest only to the theorists. Tell me,
soldier," he pointed to Negulesco. How long has it been since we
first fought the Taurans, at Aleph?"
"That depends on your frame of reference," she answered
dutifully. "To me, it's been about eight months, Commodore."
"Exactly. You've lost about nine years, though, to time dilation,
while we maneuvered between collapsar jumps. In engineering
sense, as we haven't done any important research and development
during that period, . . . the enemy vessel comes from our
future!" He stopped to let that sink in.
"As the war progresses, this can only become more and more
pronounced. The Taurans don't have any cure for relativity,
though, so it will be to our benefit as often as it is to theirs.
---------------------- END HALDEMAN QUOTE -----------------------
Somehow I don't believe that the story, of a man who through
relativistic time travel survives a war lasting 1143 years to
end up in a homosexual/lesbian culture of over 10 billion
individuals with but one consciousness cloned from one of the
KIA's in his company, will appeal to the viewing public.
As far as a liberal/conservative comparison of "THE FOREVER WAR"
to "STARSHIP TROOPERS" is concerned, this Kirkus review says it
all.
---------------------- BEGIN KIRKUS QUOTE -----------------------
"THIS WAR IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE ONE HEINLEIN GLORIFIED IN
STARSHIP TROOPERS--BLOODY, CRUEL AND MEANINGLESS. A SPLENDID
THOUGHTFUL ADVENTURE!"
----------------------- END KIRKUS QUOTE ------------------------
All quotes, including Kirkus, are from "THE FOREVER WAR"
(C)opyright 1974 by Joe W. Haldeman ISBN: 0-345-28914-5
--RWC
"Money is truthful. If a man speaks of his honor, make him pay cash." --LL
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Msg : 234 of 249
From : Frank Glover 1:2613/477 .ķá 23 .āp 96 17:43
To : Marco Catalano
Subj : Re: Where's Newt?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
MC> She wasn't the dead girl in Alien 3. You know, when the docter
MC> performed autopsy on her after she drowned in her cryotube.
Right, I know.
MC> I'll bet we won't recognize her when she is to play in a movie now,
MC> Frank.
MC> Big girl grow up, just look at Drew "Gertie" Barrymore !
I look ather as much as I possibly can.....
But you're right. I don't think I saw (female actress whose name I know I'll
remember two minutes after I post this) between `Labryinth' and `The Rocketeer.'
She was a pretty young lady before, but God knows she got even better looking
later!
Then there's Clint Howard who was a cute kid (`Gentle Ben' and original Trek
episode `The Corbomite Maneuver'), but unlike his brother, lost something along
the way. (see him in bit and supporting parts in any of his brother's movies)
Frank
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Msg : 235 of 249
From : Earl Green 1:3822/1 .ķá 23 .āp 96 09:32
To : All
Subj : Hyper? NOT!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
I got up unusually early this morning due to a phone call from some
lawyer or other who claimed my phone number was on his beeper. After
explaining to him that I didn't put it there, I got up to muddle around
a bit and happened across something on TV called "Hypernauts."
Hmmmmm.
This is the show I've heard about which is produced by a lot of
Babylon 5 alumni, including the Toaster graphics. It also looks like
the makeup is done by Optic Nerve of B5 fame too.
Not sure about the show itself, but the graphics were astonishing for
the most part. My only qualm with the graphics and effects was the
clumsy, poorly-done compositing of live actors into the scenery; it
looked, for all intents and purposes, like they were standing in front
of a big flat painting.
