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Ä [19] SFFAN (2:463/2.5) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SFFAN Ä
 Msg  : 28 of 195
 From : Jim May                             1:251/9         .ōp 27 .åâ 96 19:26
 To   : CHRIS OGNIBEN
 Subj : Re: Star Trek Generations
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
 -=> Quoting Chris Ogniben to Jim May <=-

 CO> EP story?  Exactlly what does EP mean, perhaps i could write the
 CO> story, if it's something that i am familiar with.  Since i am a sci fi
 CO> writer.

 EP stands for "Electronic Publishing", and is another media for
 presenting text. An EP program usually produces an executable file
 with a reader all set with your text. Some varieties can support
 graphics as well. The simpler ones merely create the executable
 file with the reader.

 I have a number of EP utilities and electronic books here on
 Programmer's Corner, and I will allways welcome contributions in
 the way of stories and articles that I can either display on-line
 or offer for download as text or complete books.

 I also offer a good selection of articles, files, and echos for the
 writing people.

 (Sorry - I think this is getting off topic here -- netmail me at
 1:251/9 if you wish to continue - or we could move it over to the
 Writing echo.)

 -Jim


... Put on a pot of coffee, I've got messages to read!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

--- EzyQwk V1.10 01fa00fa
 * Origin: Programmer's Corner BBS, Halifax, NS(v32b/v42b) (1:251/9)

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 Msg  : 29 of 195
 From : Kim Wheat                           1:275/102       .ōp 27 .åâ 96 19:27
 To   : Chris Ogniben
 Subj : Star Trek
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
---<<*<<< Chris dazzled Buc Wheat with these words of wisdom!! >>>**>>----

 Chris!!!!!!!

 Wow! Guess you found where Mom hide the modem, uh??! :>

 CO> I don't agree, i think star trek voyager is great.

  That's ok, Chris....I have no problem with you thinking that V'ger
 is great. Go for it!

 CO> And that you and the other people that call themselves fans of star
 CO> trek.

 You didn't finish this sentence....or if you did, it don't make
 sense....please rephrase and resubmitt.

 CO> Really disgust me, since all you do is complain.  Instead to just
 CO> watch the shows and be entertained.

 Know the feeling, shipmate...V'ger pretty much disgusts me too!
 I've seen better entertainment watching grass grow!

 CO> I watch all the episodes of star trek
 CO> voyager, where only a few i might not have liked a lot, but, i do
 CO> still watch the series and enjoy watching most of it.  And as for

 You have a stronger stomach than good taste allows. Good for you,
 guy!

 CO> V'ger, and your defention where you want a star ship captain that has a
 CO> powerful ship that can destroy vger shows how stupid you are, and that
 CO> you are a moron, and a dork.  Since, you brought up a very stupid item,
 CO> that will never happen, just because you wanted to say it in public.  I

 Wow! Didn't realize Paramount was reading this echo and that my
 comments carried such weight!!! Okay, how's this....I hope Q shows
 up on V'ger and REFUSES to send them back home! 

 CO> think you should just not read in here anymore, since you are not a
 CO> true fan of sci fi.

 Well, you got one thing right, Chris...well actually two!!
  1) I don't like Sci-Fi
  2) STrek is Sci-Fi.

 Thanks! :)

 I knew it was too quiet in here for some reason, Chris! Pass me your
 phone number so I can suggest another hiding place for your Mom!

 Kim :)

___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30

--- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 10
 * Origin: SelectiveSource VirginiaBeach,VA 804 471 6776 (1:275/102)

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 Msg  : 30 of 195
 From : Todd Sullivan                       1:202/720.3     .ōp 27 .åâ 96 18:41
 To   : Chris Ogniben
 Subj : Gulliver's Travels
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
Brion Lienhart was kicking back and telling sea stories until Inspector General
Chris Ogniben walked in and said, "Knock off with that Gulliver's Travels and
get back to work!"  There was no choice but to shoot Chris.

 CO>   The movie series was stupid.  Of course i didn't watch it, but, you
 CO> all know that it's not real.  And that it didn't acutally happen.  It
 CO> was all made up like a story book.  I didn't bother wasting my time to
 CO> watch it, not with great sci fi shows that are on.

If you had any idea of what Gulliver's Travels was about, you'd have said
nothing.

It is not meant as anything but political and social satire, disguised as an
adventure fantasy.

Todd Sullivan

... "A crust eaten in peace is better than a banquet partaken in
     anxiety." --Aesop

-*- ASTG 1.9

--- Spot 1.3a Unregistered
 * Origin: Todd's Spot in the Continuum (1:202/720.3)

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 Msg  : 31 of 195
 From : Don Bach                            1:3632/65       .pä 28 .åâ 96 08:22
 To   : Barton Paul Levenson
 Subj : Re: Alien threats?
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

 BPL> My own take on this is that civilizations probably develop in one of two
 BPL> ways -- colonizers, who think their race superior and
 BPL> want to spread through the Universe, fighting it out
 BPL> with whoever gets in their way, and non-colonizers,
 BPL> who try to stop the colonizers out of self-defense.
 BPL> The fact that we haven't been colonized means the
 BPL> antis hold the upper hand in this galaxy.  The best
 BPL> way for us to antagonize them would be to take on the
 BPL> colonizer mentality ourselves, and try to expand.
 BPL> THAT would bring on a very unpleasant first contact.

The Europeans (and eventually the U.S.) were colonizers once they had the
technology to reach other lands.  It indeed did bring on unpleasant contacts
with aborigines (American Indians, Africans, Indians, Polynesians, etc.).  The
strife between the aboriginal and colonial cultures still continues (racism is
one form).

I believe that once we get the technology to reach other worlds, we will take a
very colonial stance and repeat the same mistakes as the European Colonists.

Don


--- Maximus 3.01
 * Origin: No Regrets, Clinton, MS (601)924-8247 9P-5A (1:3632/65)

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 Msg  : 32 of 195
 From : mitch obrecht                       1:285/66.98     .îí 26 .åâ 96 09:51
 To   : Aaron Turon
 Subj : What I want to talk about
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
On (24 Feb 96) Aaron Turon wrote to Barton Paul Levenson...

 AT> I'd like to talk about STAR TREK Cya! ;)


 AT> --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a
 AT>  * Origin: Chipper Clipper * Scott me up beamy! * 941-745-56
 AT> (1:137/2.0)

Then let's talk Trek!  You start...


... 20y/o gay, single -- what else?  hmm... just ask?

--- PPoint 2.00
 * Origin: A Professional Point System (1:285/66.98)

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 Msg  : 33 of 195
 From : mitch obrecht                       1:285/66.98     .îí 26 .åâ 96 09:54
 To   : all
 Subj : help!
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
I've heard several people talk about a story that's probably 10 years old
or more... the basis of this story is that there is someone in the armed
forces (air force, I think) who is hetero, and somehow gets transported
to the future (400 years or so, I think).  Everyone (or the majority) in this
future is gay or lesbian (even bi is considered a no-no) and in one part of
this story or book, the main character is making a speech in front of a
training group, and says "Yes, I'm straight, but don't hold it against me"

Can anybody out there tell me where I can find this? Or who it's by, the
title, or any information?  I've had almost 20 differant people tell me
that they have read it, highly recommend it, yet they cannot tell me
where I can find it, or any info...  Thanks!


--- PPoint 2.00
 * Origin: A Professional Point System (1:285/66.98)

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 Msg  : 34 of 195
 From : Michael Harper                      1:123/414       .pä 28 .åâ 96 09:02
 To   : Frank Glover
 Subj : Star Trek Generations
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+

 -=> Tossing back another tequila, Frank Glover told Michael Harper about

  Star Trek Generations...

 FG> Indeed he does. I still have an audio tape I made as he brought his
 FG> lunar module down to the surface on the Apollo 12 mission. Compared to
 FG> the few-words Armstrong and Aldrin, he kept an enthusiastic, running
 FG> commentary all the way down. Still, the comm officer's lines were
 FG> short, and one might not notice.

 Yeah, Conrad's always had a big mouth. Remember, most of these guys
 were of the Chuck Yeager school, and no matter what they were doing,
 they always sounded laconic and bored. Yeager could've been making love
 to half a dozen nymphomaniac coeds at Mach 3, and he'd still have
 sounded bored.

 FG> But I've since been told it was Thomas Kopache. Darned if he
 FG> doesn't *look* like Pete though, and we have the precedent of Mae
 FG> Jemison doing a cameo in a Next Generation episode as a transporter
 FG> operator....

 I'm not a bit surprised. Trek's always been popular with NASA
 personnel...


... Mind Like A Steel Trap - Rusty And Illegal In 37 States
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12
 * Origin:  Weyr Galifrey - Memphis, TN  +1.901.685.0017 (1:123/414)

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 Msg  : 35 of 195
 From : Michael Harper                      1:123/414       .pä 28 .åâ 96 09:02
 To   : Frank Swarbrick
 Subj : Dangerous Babes
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
.TID: GE 1.11+

 -=> Tossing back another tequila, Frank Swarbrick told Michael Harper about

  Dangerous Babes...

 FS> Is she from New Zealand?  I don't think so...  The show is shot there,
 FS> sure, but it's an American TV show, and she sure sounds American to
 FS> me.  I heard that neither Hercules nor Xena are even aired in New
 FS> Zealand.

 Nope, she's Enzedd. Has one kid, shares joint custody with her
 ex-husband. And she was already a star in New Zealand before Xena ever
 came about. I think the shows both air down there; I'll check.

... "Exciting, isn't it?" --Draal
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12
 * Origin:  Weyr Galifrey - Memphis, TN  +1.901.685.0017 (1:123/414)

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 Msg  : 36 of 195
 From : The Raven                           1:363/309       .ōp 27 .åâ 96 00:51
 To   : Mark Jones
 Subj : Bred to Conquer
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

 MJ> I know the feeling.  I don't think I could wade through Lord Of The
 MJ> Rings again, though I really enjoyed it at the time.
 MJ> So--who else *do* you dump on?  I'll show you mine....

 MJ> Alan Dean Foster, as I already mentioned.  I used to read his
 MJ> stuff, but I don't any longer.  He lost me when he published
 MJ> SPELLSINGER and I just never went back.

     Ah, I understand now.  I don't read the Spellsinger novels.  I read one
of them, thought it was cute but fluff, and never read any of the others.
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