Msg : 134 of 195
From : John Arnold 3:632/103 .ōp 27 .åâ 96 08:30
To : Mark Jones
Subj : Re: Alien threats?
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Hi Mark,
MJ>> No argument. But the moron in question seems to think that any
MJ>> aliens who come knocking on our door will *necessarily* be
MJ>> physically stronger (by a wide margin) than we are. Which is a
MJ>> load of steaming
MJ>> ****, frankly. Nobody knows.
MJ>> That any aliens who can cross interstellar space to kick sand in
MJ>> our faces will be more advanced scientifically than we are I don't
MJ>> dispute. We can't do it. If they can, obviously they've learned
MJ>> something we don't know yet.
Or found it by chance.
I remember a story where the aliens come to Earth to trade a FTL drive
for own TV transmission tech after we send a probe to their planet.
They couldn't transmit the quality pics that we could with our probes...
Can't remember who wrote it but a little voice in the back of my head
says A C Clarke...
BFN,
John.
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Msg : 135 of 195
From : John Arnold 3:632/103 .åō 29 .åâ 96 15:46
To : Robert Lidgren
Subj : Teraforming
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Hi Robert,
>Here's a question for readers of SF out there. Have you
>read any good books or
>short stories containing the process of TERRAFORMING? The process was
>used in a Star Trek movie but I want to explore the idea further in
>fiction. TERRAFORMING is the process of turning an unihabitable planet
>into one with the environmentet suitable for human habitation without
>the need for life-support, self-contained air-supply, protective suits,
>etc.
You could try Manhattan Transfer by John E Stith.
It doesn't go into how the terraforming is done.
It's more about how a city of humans stop aliens from
terraforming Earth...
Also the Mars books by Kim Stanley Robinson.
Red Mars, Green Mars and Blue Mars.
Blue Mars isn't out yet but is meamt to be RSN...
You could also try Farmer In The Sky by Robert A Heinlein or
Against Infinity by Gregory Benford. Both are more or less the same
story, but one using machines and the other using genetic engineered
animals... I think the RAH version was the better done of the two.
But than again I was a lot younger when I read RAH's version and only
read GB's version last year...
BFN,
John.
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Msg : 136 of 195
From : Bryan Malone 1:170/810.12 .îí 04 .āp 96 13:19
To : Frank Glover
Subj : 'bugs' in ST: Generations
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On (03 Mar 96) Frank Glover wrote to Marco Catalano...
Ok.. I got one.. The crew of the Big E is really dead.
Why?
The nexus would let you go anywhere and do or be anything you desired
right? But you were still in the nexus! The only reason others had
"escaped" was because they were beamed out.
So Picard's second desire was to fix what he messed up. So he fixed
it.. and thus saved that Solar System. But it's just a nexus "dream"
He's still in there.. They never said you could will yourself out.
He's stuck...
So everything we see from now on is a dream Picard's having.. Even DS9
since they have brought in Mr. Dorn.. (cause Worf died with the
others) and ST: Voyager as well.. cause Q brought in Riker..
Or at least my Klingon side likes to believe that..
... "Ever walk into a Denny's at 3 AM? Looks like the bar in Star Wars!"
--- PPoint 2.00
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Msg : 137 of 195
From : Dean Sweatman 1:396/40 .pä 06 .āp 96 06:39
To : All
Subj : COASTCON XIX Publicity Up
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.TID: InterEcho 1.17 6E010867
* Originally By: Palewood@aol.com
* Originally To: Dean Sweatman
* Originally Re: COASTCON XIX Publicity Up
* Original Date: 03-05-96 14:30
* Original Area: i.uucp.email
* Forwarded by : Blue Wave/DOS v2.20
From: Palewood@aol.com
To: wapt@misnet.com, WLOXTV@aol.com, WNOLTV@aol.com, PaulaPWGNO@aol.com, Date:
Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:30:51 -0500 Subject: COASTCON XIX Publicity Update
Sadly, we must announce that, as of March 5, 1996, GARY GRAHAM has had to cancel
as our Special Guest at COASTCON. The shooting schedule for the next ALIEN
NATION movie has been moved up several weeks, resulting in a schedule conflict.
BUT THERE IS PLENTY OF GOOD NEWS, TOO! :) For those of you who just tuned in...
Governor Kirk Fordice has officially proclaimed the month of March 1996 as
COASTCON MONTH in the state of Mississippi!
Biloxi Mayor A. J. Holloway has graciously consented to "officially" open the
festivities at COASTCON on Friday, March 22, 1996.
JOHN DOLLAR replaces Tony DiTerlizzi as Artist Guest of Honor.
AND we are pleased to welcome Astronomer CHRISTIAN READY of the Hubble Space
Telescope Science Institute!
BABYLON 5 fans take note! COASTCON's guest list now includes "MOJO", Supervising
Visual Effects Animator for Foundation Imaging! (And get a sneak-peek at F.I.'s
new ABC series HYPERNAUTS, too!)
Fantasy Author and noted Game Designer AARON ALSTON returns to COASTCON--and
will be reading from his current novel, "Sidhe Devil"!
New Orleans Artist Extraordinaire HUGO MONTERO will demonstrate his unique
technique--you have to see it to believe it! (We needed the Fire Marshal for
this one!)
For Further information, please
contact:
Niels W. Erickson
Palewood@aol.com
... Dean Sweatman's Continuing and Relentless quest toward Fuggheadedness
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]
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Msg : 138 of 195
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .ōp 05 .āp 96 06:35
To : Barton Paul Levenson
Subj : Alternative energy sources
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The subject line was NUCLEAR BS. Now you've changed the subject line, but not
the true topic. It is OFF TOPIC and has been officially declared so. Please
stop posting to this subject.
Thank you for your cooperation,
-- Nicolai Shapero, Moderator of the SFFAN echo
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Msg : 139 of 195
From : Nicolai Shapero 1:102/524 .ōp 05 .āp 96 06:37
To : ROBERT LIDGREN
Subj : TERAFORMING
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On , ROBERT LIDGREN (1:134/10) wrote to BARTON PAUL LEVENSON:
RL>=================================================================
RL>=====
RL>| Robert Lidgren \\\|/// * THE INNER SANCTUM | * The Old Viking
RL>|
RL>| ( o o ) * Writer, Teacher | * Seeker of the
RL>Truth |
RL>|
RL>=========o00o====(_)====o00o=====================================
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RL>| e-mail me at------------> robert.lidgren@bbs.logicnet.com
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RL>| My Personal Web Site---->
RL>http://www.logicnet.com/robert.lidgren |
RL>=================================================================
RL>=====
Multiple line sigs of this sort are more the rule than the exception on the
Internet. However, on Fidonet, where the cost of carrying the echoes is paid by
individuals as part of their hobby and not as part of a "for profit" business,
it is not. On this conference, they are specifically forbidden.
Thank you for your cooperation,
-- Nicolai Shapero, Moderator of the SFFAN echo
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Msg : 140 of 195
From : Kay Shapero 1:102/524 .ōp 05 .āp 96 22:33
To : Todd Sullivan
Subj : Fan/fanatic/fancier
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On , Todd Sullivan (1:202/720.3) wrote to Kay Shapero:
TS>I've been to a few cons, but I can't make comparisons; one was
TS>Creation Con back in '80 or '81, and one was the one our
TS>Starfleet chapter in O-Town hosted.
The second one was probably closer to what I tend to think of as a convention -
the Creation things and similar phenomena are more like professional shows for
which you buy tickets to come and be the audience. I much prefer the fan-run
conventions where you pay for memberships to come and be the convention; sorta
like a really big party. Was the Starfleet one a Star Trek convention, or a
general sf convention? I cut my teeth on Equicons (fan-run convention with a
strong ST presense, but by no means limited to Trek), Westercons, LOScons and
whatnot. Haven't been to a Worldcon for years since they got so big they just
weren't as much fun any more. The sort of place where you can sit in the
convention lounge discussing the whichness of the wherefore or how to build a
beer can tower to the Moon (I rather like the bheerstalk myself - you take this
nice looong monofiliment cable and stack bheercans around it and... but I
digress).
... I am Dyslexia of Borg, Prepare to have your ass laminated
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Msg : 141 of 195
From : Kay Shapero 1:102/524 .ōp 05 .āp 96 22:23
To : Robert Siemborski
Subj : Babylon 5 - Point of no return
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On , Robert Siemborski (1:2604/214) wrote to All:
RS>For those of you who havn't seen point of no return...
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RS>OK... Now I just watched that very fine episode and loved it
RS>alot!!!! Great episode! I noticed a few things though and wanted
RS>to see what people thought on them, basically start up another B5
RS>discussion that seems to have dissapeared....
By all means let's keep it up in here - and if you want a LOT of B5 discussion,
consider picking up the BABYLON5 echo - it's on the FIDO backbone same as this
thingie.
RS>* G'Kar was LIGHTING candles for once. I remember reading
RS>somewhere that this was a sign of hope. The last time we saw an
RS>expression of G'Kar and his candles was when he squished the last
RS>one out as Narn fell.... Is this a symbol of false hope, or is
RS>JMS foreshadowing something good about to happen? I think its
RS>the former...
I think it's mostly a symbol of G'Kar having regained his own feelings of hope,
even if what he hopes for has been changed. He acts like a man who's been
released from heavy stress. I think something good will happen - however I also
think a lot of not-so-good is going to happen first.
RS>Most importantally, how is Babylon 5 going to react/survive to an
